If Pavlik beats BHOP impressively

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  1. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Should he surpass Calzaghe in the p4p list?
    If your answer is no..explain why
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Most definately. Calzaghe didn't even beat Hopkins according to many fans worldwide, members of the boxing community, as well as members of the media.
     
  3. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Its not a popular view but I cant get around it..It means Pavlik is either 2 or 3
     
  4. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    If Calzaghe had actually beaten Hopkins this might be different.
     
  5. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    NO . . . bottom line . . . Pavlik needs to fight Calzaghe. If Calzaghe refuses . . . then he should retire and everybody behind him in the p4p list goes up one notch.
     
  6. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I dont get it...p4p has nothing to do with fighting each other...

    The bottom line seems to be that if Pavlik beats Hopkins more impressively than Joe..added to the fact that in the last couple of years Pavlik has beaten better competition than Joe..surely he has surpassed Joe in the p4p list..You cant put Pavlik behind Joe in any list...

    This could be two things..either Joe shouldnt be that high..or Kelly is really that good and deserving of p4p elite status
     
  7. Marquito_666

    Marquito_666 ESB´s #1 **** star Full Member

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    A while ago, Joe got absolutely NO credit for beating an old and washed up HOP.

    Now Pavlik´s gonna milk the same cow...and use that for P4P list climbing ?
     
  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    read the thread title and some of the posts..and Joe did get credit...thats why hes #2 p4p
     
  9. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Pavlik destroys him than yes. If a narrow decision than no, Calzaghes long list of half decent opponents gives him a narrow edge.
     
  10. Marquito_666

    Marquito_666 ESB´s #1 **** star Full Member

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    I saw the title, read the posts and I still don´t agree.

    Would love for the two of them to fight, though !
     
  11. TheH1tMan

    TheH1tMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It would be close.
     
  12. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Pavlik beats BHOP impressively and BHOP fights well...Then yes, he should be p4p #1 IMO (unless pacman beats oscar)
     
  13. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl

    p4p 1 for beating hopkins who is coming off a loss :lol: is 43 years old and is 2-3 in his last 5 fights :patsch


    ****ing terrible post mate

    Right pavlik has a win over gate keeper miranda 2 wins against hype job taylor (who was getting embarrassed by cory spinks) and Lockett who is **** to be honest.

    You wanna make him p4p 1 on that :yep
     
  14. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Has Bernard Hopkins ever been dominated in a fight? No. Is Bernard Hopkins a living legend ATG? Yes. Can Hopkins legimately claim that he won every fight besides vs Roy Jones Jr.? Yes.

    If Kelly Pavlik beats hopkins convincingly and hopkins still looks good (not shot), I would put pavlik top 2 p4p.
     
  15. Marquito_666

    Marquito_666 ESB´s #1 **** star Full Member

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    Good point!

    Passing someone on the ranking by beating an opponent that the other guy already beat doesn´t sound right.