If Pavlik beats BHOP impressively

Kelly should at least move up to 4th. This is where B-Hop is ranked.

 

If Pavlic beats him its because hopkins is too old. He got lucky in his first fight with Taylor because he was almost knocked out. Taylor was arrogant and didnt think Pavlik could beat him. Taylor punched himself out and lost his focus mentally, and once Pavlik hurt him it was over. Pavlik won the second fight with Taylor because Taylor was scared of being knocked out. Now Pavlik has alot of heart but he is at the point where he needs to make sure his confidence does not turn to arrogance, that was Taylors downfall. But Pavlik needs alot more to prove before he even belongs on the list.

 

Even if Pavlik beat Hopkins impressively it still does'nt move pass Calzhaghe in the rankings, especially when your criteria is based off resume which is something Calaghe has over Pavlik still. Now if Pavlik beat Hopkins impressively and goes back down to 160 and beats Arthur Abraham clearly then I might have a change of heart as to moving Pavlik above Calzaghe in the rankings.

 

No you are dismissing other points than your own, hard to have a serious debate when you wont acknowledge other wiews on the subject.

 

He should... Not even going to bother expaining why..

 

Yeah and Delahoya has resume over Margarito STILL....but not recently, which is what matters in the CURRENT and PRESENT DAY P4P list :deal Calzaghe's last 5 fights

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Pavliks last 5 fights (assuming and including the BHop win)

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Now if you can look at those two and not say pavlik's is more impressive I seriously question your objectivity on this subjet :deal

 

why not 'no comment' for lockett?

bika/manfreddo beat lockett!

 

pavlik = jermain taylor x2, miranda, hopkins
calzaghe= hopkins, kessler......

 

I have him a distant number five at the moment.No matter what Pavlik will still be behind Pacquiao and Calzaghe .

 

Pavlik is the local so factor that in to my comment. If Pavlik loses to Bhop it means alot. Pavlik struggles to make 160 so 168 is a more natural weight for him to fight at. This fight is at 170. If he loses to Bhop, then he doesn't stand much of a chance against JC. It took me a LONG time to warm up to this matchup for Kelly. Boo has pointed out that in some ways Kelly is still lacking in experience because of all of his early KO's.

I agree with Boo though. Hopkins just doesn't have the stamina to hang with Kelly for the full 12. He retires Bhop and JC in the same night.

 

Kelly has to barely squeak by Bhop to lure JC into the ring. If he loses, JC says, not way he needs to fight Kelly. If he wins convincingly, then JC says he is already announced his retirement and we never hear from him again.