If Pavlik Beats Martinez, How Much Credit Will You Give Him?

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  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I don't want this thread to turn into a pissin' match, nor am I asking anyone to write up a predictive analysis, or even to make a pick. I just want your answer to one question. If Pavlik beats Martinez decisively, and looks good doing it, what will you say afterward?
     
  2. dbouziane

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  3. Mr. HU

    Mr. HU KP vs BHop anniversary Full Member

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    That he needs to step up in weight and in competition like most "good" boxers do!!

    Martinez is a JMW who is willing to step up and fight a MW
    Paul Williams is a WW/JMW who was willing to/and step up and fight a MW

    Pavlik is in a dead division so why doesn't he step up 1 weight class and fight Bute who will be free after Miranda!!!??
     
  4. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Liberal use of the facts. Both Martinez and Williams have demonstrated comparable if not better power and no loss of speed at 160. Calling Williams a "Welterweight" is just comical.
     
  5. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    We should be able to bet vCash on whether or not this fight gets made.
     
  6. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    see...this logic exposes your hate. you think martinez and williams would whip pavlik....making pavlik the third best mw in your opinion. yet you hate on him (in other threads as well) that he's not fighting arguably the best smw in the world. so which is it? is he the best mw in the world...in which case he beats both martinez and willams and should be fighting bute instead, or is he only the third best mw in the world, in which case what good is fighting a top smw going to do??? :deal
     
  7. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Then ohio can have another parade.
     
  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Come on now guys!! Tons of posters have been very outspoken about Pavlik losing, but I can't get anybody who has any sense to comment on what a win might mean:think
     
  9. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll give him credit, then expect him to either fight TP or Bute. No more soft touches. Not saying Martinez is a soft touch, but Sergio is Kelly's first breathing opponent since Hop.
     
  10. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pavlik starches Williams. Williams is overrated. Although i would like to see Williams lose badly. (Cue NeckBreakinAiken)

    Pavlik should move up to 168 should he win.
     
  11. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Kelly was on a live ESPN chat today. One of the participants ask him who he would fight if he could fight any current or past fighter. It took Kelly about 2 seconds to respond. "Paul Williams." This is personal. After all the trash talking Williams, Goosen, and Peterson did, Pav wants this BAD.
     
  12. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pavlik beats Williams with a highlight reel KO......then he moves up to 168.
     
  13. TonyPeri

    TonyPeri Active Member Full Member

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    Pavlik - Abraham. Pavlik - Froch. Pavlik - Ward.

    Ward knocks him out. He beats Froch & Abraham.
     
  14. Hermit

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    Ward couldn't KO Miranda FFS.
     
  15. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Ward knocks who out? :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl