**If PBF never fights Cotto....what you think of his claim..he is the best...?

And tell me wht the great big deal is beating the Worst WW Champ in possibly the history of boxing? Scar...you are MUCH too smart to ask questions like "why didn't he even come close to becoming the undisputed champion?" You can't fight guys who don't want to fight. Baldomir and Judah both turned down bouts. Sure, the WBO might have held him back some. But today, that really isn't a problem. So no, the WHOLE divisio didn't duck Margarito, so please don't ask childish questions.

But lets go back to my first sentence. How much props has MAyweather gotten for beating Baldomir? Almost none. Was it a good win? Not really. Was it a good fight? Not even close. Has he defended his title? Just against Hatton. Is WW one of the best divisions today? **** yeah it is. And all we've heard from MAyweather is rematch talk and how Cotto STILL isn't worthy of him (DESPITE trying to fight him earlier in Cotto's career). So what does that tell you Mayweather thinks of Legacy? Or what he wanted from 147? He wanted a belt, just to make his "5 division champ" claim. While his reign @ 147 may be linear, it's more akin to DLH's titles @ 160. More empty then anything. I know you and some other have said Floyd WILL fight Cotto in 09...but how do you know? Mayweather's still pulling the "Not big enough" card. Hell, if Pac keeps winning his fights, I would bet we'd see Pac fight Mayweather before Cotto does. Simply put, they're close enough in weight and there's more money for both.

 

Where do you get 4 million from? Did you pull it out of your ass like every other statement you've made?

 

"Wasn't a player"... not even sure what this means. Eze you aren't making sense and here is why.

1.You claim Margo didn't bring anything to the table against Floyd, so there was no reason to make the fight.

2. When it is pointed out that he fought lesser competitio in Corley and Ndou, you say he "wasn't a player".

So, I ask you this: In between beating Corley and Baldomir (the boxer he elected over Margo), he beat Brusseles, Gatti, Mitchell, and Judah. Which one of these made him a player?

In specific, which victory made it ok for him to fight lesser opponents than Margarito, and then turn around and say that Margarito brought nothing to the table?

 

Ok, lets now follow your logic then.

Being that he took the DLH fight and won, he now has the opportunity to fight the best welter (Cotto) or the guy who called him out in a way to your liking (Margo).

BUT HE AIN'T DOING IT.

Your logic or mine, your arguement doesn't wash.

 

By player I mean a huge star, the right to pick and choose.

The Gatti fight propelled him to become a PPV star. Pulling in good numbers vs him.

 

**** Floyd just keeps comming up with excuses not to fight Cotto or Margarito.
http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Benz/DHBenz0601c08.htm

 

Good, now that he is a big star, and can produce PPV dollars with anyone, I'm sure he is going to choose Cotto, right?

 

Hopefully by 09.


And hopefully Arum starts offering Floyd the fight.

The challenger chases the Champion not vice versa.

 

Of course I'm going to ask why Margarito hasn't come close to the undisputed title, it's called common sense. I see fighters moving up and getting that recognition while Margarito is still the WBO champion holding the title "Hagler of the generation" then anyone with brains will most like question this guy's worthless position, to be painfully honest. You say Baldomir and Judah ducked him, what about Mayorga/Spinks/DLH/Mosley/Forrest and the list is endless, what happened to those guys?, getting ducked by two is logical but not a ****ing que of fighters.

Mayweather didn't get props?, he's the undisputed champion of the division if that's not enough props then I don't know what is?, being WBO champion after beating Margarito maybe?, how much props did Williams get for beating Margarito?. In all honesty, you think Williams got enough props to be considered "Hagler of the generation"?, I don't think so and his stock hardly went up after that win as well. If he beat Cotto maybe then hell yes far more people will tune up, see what I mean by going for the undisputed champion is FAR better than someone a few journalists want to label as the most feared fighter on the planet even though his one-dimensional style is easily exposed only after watching 2-3 fights of his. Floyd simply took on the undisputed champion in Baldomir(Which is why Floyd came to that division anywa, Judah, who lost to Baldomir) he had no plans for the likes of Margarito who have bee in the division for ages and the only noticeable accomplishment is a win over Cintron, might sound harsh but it's the way it's done in boxing right now. Cotto is fighting Margarito for a reason, both are behind the same promoters and with all the hype surrounding both Margarito and Cotto they'll find a way to credit Cotto for this win and it's more like a key to fight Mayweather next, a fight that WILL happen, pretty simple. It's hardly a career defining moment to be honest and if Mayweather didn't fight Margarito after Baldomir then I'm damn sure you'll remember why and admit to it as well. Remember when talks of a DLH fight where all over, even I asked you would you rather see Floyd fight Margarito instead?, and you said NO together with the entire forum. You're also a smart guy to think that Floyd, a professional fighter with all the skills that he possesses, will have some sort of fear for Margarito yet have no fears whatsoever to accept LESS money than he deserves, in a small ring, in his first fight at Light Middleweight and wearing his opponent's choice of gloves against DLH(a fighter even at 35 years of age is FAR better than Margarito). There was not enough reason to fight Margarito and there never will be and the reason is simple, the guy has been in the division all his career and has 1 accomplishment worth bragging about, that's not enough. Cotto has his undefeated record and a fanbase which is why that fight will happen if he comes out victorious against Marg and Mayweather victorious against DLH. It's barely complicated if you look at it the way the boxing world looks at it, these days there's no such thing as "ducked for life" you either do something about it or just sit there and hope for some big-name to come up, you call him out and try to make yourself popular off other people's accomplishments and names.

 

Again you don't seem to get it, he's the undisputed champion why the hell would he go run after contenders?, if those guys want it they ought to call him out professionally, not by saying "Si" behind microphones. Who called him out?, it was Hatton and professionally so they negotiated the fight and it was set. Pointless fight in your opinion?, well the PPV numbers prove you beyond wrong, a pointless fight won't attract that many casual and hardcore fans. Did Cotto do the same?, the answer is NO. End of story.

 

And if the fight is offered, and Floyd doesn't take it, you give your word to criticize him.

 

Prove to me it was 4 million assclown, it was 8million and for the undisputed title. Now there, I answered it for you because you're too much of a ***** to answer. Now get the **** out of my face jackass, Mr. "Margarito is the reigning WBO champion for 8 years!!!". :rofl :rofl :rofl Even that worthless title he didn't carry that long. :deal

 

Hatton called him out professionaly? What does that mean? Are you talking about his slight against Floyd in the ring?

Was it more professional than the way Margarito called him out?

And by the way I didn't criticize the Hatton fight, I have both props for taking it. The rematch is another story.

 

Yes.

 

Correction, that's proof that the fight is sooner than expected. You should know that if you consider yourself a hardcore boxing fan. Just look at the events before Hatton/Mayweather as a recent example. :good
As far as Margarito is concerned, sorry but that fight has been worthless long ago and will forever remain, a fight with Cotto I'll definitely agree and demand.