If power is the last thing you lose, why could Pac not knock down Bradley/JMM but...

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  1. Dedication

    Dedication Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mosley, Hatton, Cotto and beat Margarito & Mosley to a pulp?

    Had he come off the juice for those fights?

    I mean Mayweather was able to knock down JMM yet Pac could not.

    Really suspect if you ask me?
     
  2. DeadLikeMe

    DeadLikeMe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac is still as blood doped as ever...he is just hitting that inevitable wall that athletes who rely moreso on athleticism than intelligence all hit.
     
  3. Hook!

    Hook! Proud member of team G. Full Member

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    maybe because they boxed smart? didn't play the role of punchbag with no defence or ****** running scared.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    Cause he's getting old and losing his explosiveness
     
  5. Smokin' Joe

    Smokin' Joe ~ Dinamita Irlandés ~ banned

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    The easy explanation would be; Hatton @140 where he was obviously stronger. Margarito was a walking punchbag and Mosley was ancient and well past it.
     
  6. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Correct.
     
  7. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Because his actual punchin prowess roots in his speed and explosiveness. And speed/explosive ability are some of the first attributes to go, they have not gone completely in Pacquiao, but one only needs to watch his recent fights to see he's lost SOME OF that speed and SOME of that explosiveness.

    With all that said, he's still an extraordinarily fast fighter, even at 147lbs. And JMM always had his number.
     
  8. VBOX

    VBOX JOURNEYMAN Full Member

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    Reading way too much into things. **** happens. Why did Lennox Lewis get his ass knocked out? Because punches to the head will do that sometimes.
     
  9. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    because all those other guys thought, pac is a little guy and I'm going to run him over, and they realized that's not the way to fight him, only Erik could do that on a great night. Boxing off the back foot limits the amount of time Pac can run combos on you, and his feet/relentlessness have slowed a bit.
     
  10. Dedication

    Dedication Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mosley was able to make Mayweather do the skanky leg

    It isn't a case of losing his explosiveness
     
  11. Hook!

    Hook! Proud member of team G. Full Member

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    Also, a combination or pacs slowing footwork and fighters not letting him plant his feet
     
  12. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Yes
     
  13. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    correct answer
     
  14. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's all in the delivery and the ability to hit the target. Nothing suspicous here...
     
  15. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    JMM rarely ever let him get a shot on flush and neutralized his punching angle.

    Bradley could see most of the shots coming and rolled away from a lot of the shots very defensively in the second half of the fight. Manny himself also seemed like he was making it a point to box smart, not go for the kill and punish him.

    JMM ran into the counter left from Floyd, had the weight less well-distributed, and Floyd himself had a weight advantage Manny did not.