If Prime Foreman Faced Every Champ Before Him..?

These two have actually been in several pictures together. Old Louis looked every bit the 3 inches taller and clearly had a broader wingspan. Louis would use his quicker jab against Foreman and right hand counters, not bob and weave attacks.

Frazier listed 5'11.5"...but maybe 5'10.5"
Louis listed 6'2 but maybe 6'1.5"

Louis is closer to Jimmy Young in dimensions, except he hits much harder.

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Why? Jeffries had stamina and if Marciano could survive opening rounds..

 

Welcome to the Forum.

 

Could it be classed as Grooming?

 

He just signs himself up for a prolonged beating.

 

Yeah, but he does not move as good and/or fast as Young, and that's what gave Foreman that much trouble.

 

Louis actually had faster hands than Young, especially with combinations, he also had other tools that Young didn't possess that would play into a Foreman match up.

but I will not continue with that debate until you revisit your Frazier analogy given Louis clearly is not the same size as shown.

5'10.5" vs 6'3" is a different fight than 6'1.5" vs 6'3"

 

Faster hands, perhaps (I'm not convinced), but not faster feet, which are more important IMO.
You are right about the size, Louis was probably 1.5 - 2 inches taller, so that's my mistake. I did not remember properly and thought Louis was just 6.1. But I still see Foreman winning this comfortably.

 

what ridiculous cult?

I am recruiting people to the dark side?

 

Uncalled for. Uncalled for...

 

No he is correct-Tyson & Frazier while both lsted at 1/2" under 6', are not taller than 5' 10' & a 1/2".
Check Frazier next to Stander-at most 5' 11", although heights are often at least marginally rounded up-& how much dramatically shorter he is in facing off with Ali, Foreman & others.

 

Foreman was a monster head to head, but he was not stylistically versatile.

He was a slugger, and that was essentially the only game that he had.

This would lead to a couple of upsets at the very least.

 

This is a little inaccurate.

Look at the fights with Chuvalo and Peralta. He paced himself well and actually boxed. He used his jab and set up shots and was very mindful of the range. Both Frazier fights were master class performances, he completely dismantled him and wouldn't let Frazier get his rhythm going.

He only swings wildly when he knows the opponent is badly hurt and against the ropes, and Ali is the only person that managed to survive by the skin of his teeth despite his incredible toughness and adaptability.

Good luck finding a boxer that would survive that scenario.