If RJJ get criticized for his resume and fighting cans, why not BHOP???

This is ESB where prime Hopkins = the one they saw against Joe Calzaghe :nut

 

Also who the **** was Joe Calzaghe in 2002? or 2003? as if it was some huge fight that had to happen for the sake of boxing when Hopkins actually fought Calzaghe both fighters were in the best runs of their career as evident by some of their previous recent wins (Tarver and Kessler) not to mention both fighters made more money.

 

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Here's Roy Jones rejecting 50/50 and not wanting to go to Europe to fight Michalczewski but once he got flattened all of a sudden he'll accept 50/50 with Joe Calzaghe, he'll go to Australia to fight Danny Green and he'll go to Russia to fight Lebedev, but when he was prime the only risk he ever took was fighting James Toney.

 

Like I said, Calslappy is seven years younger and was just barely able to outwork a 43 year old Hopkins to a SD win. Jones soundly beat a 28 year old, physically prime Hopkins. You can argue all you want, but those facts won't change. ****ing deal with it already. :bart

 

Oh come on, Jack. You don't honestly believe that, do you? Against past-prime versions of Hopkins....

• JT barely squeeks by both times.
• Winky actually loses to him.
• Calzaghe only manages a split decision win which a large number felt he was lucky to get.
• Dawson is pushed to the limit in every round, despite being the far younger, bigger, stronger, faster and better conditioned fighter.

And yet you think they'd all handle a prime Hopkins that at one time was built to fight 15 hard rounds?

The only one that would beat him is Roy Jones. That's it. But the rest would be handled without doubt.

 

He's just hating, he's not stupid :bart

 

Hopkins turned down a career high payday of $3m to face Calzaghe, instead he faced Morrade Hakkar for 200k :roflatsch

 

These facts won't change,

-Hopkins hadn't accomplished anything when he faced Jones, he still needed another two attempts to win a world title
-Hopkins was on the best run of his career when he lost to Calzaghe (Wright, Tarver then Pavlik).

Calzaghe was past his prime, and he beat Hopkins at a new weight, in America. Barely outworked Hopkins? Answer this question yes or no, can any LHW get themselves into decent condition to throw 750 punches in a fight and beat the Bernard Hopkins that Calzaghe beat?

 

And the 2nd fight after that he got to face Oscar and made $10-$15 million which was his career high payday fighting one of the most recognised and celebrated boxers of his generation do you think that opportunity would have been there if he moved up to 168 to fight Joe Calzaghe in Wales? :nut

 

Talking of Joe Calzaghe the GOAT SMW....can anyone explain why during his reign another undefeated champion who fought in the same division popped up yet there was no fight between the two stay at home kings? no? anyone?

 

Ottke refused offers from Frank ****** to fight Calzaghe...

If you want stay at home kings, look no further than Andre Ward. Calzaghe had travelled more at the same stage in his career.

Read the passage, the fight would have been in America. I can think of $2.8 million reasons to take the fight with Calzaghe :nut It wouldn't have been much trouble for Hopkins to fight at 168, then go back down to 160, many fighters have done this. As an example, recently Marco Huck stepped up to HW to fight Povetkin, he's now back at CW. Evidently, going to HW didn't stop Huck getting fights at CW. Mayweather went to 154 to fight ODLH, didn't stop him getting a fight with Hatton at 147.

 

And like I said, he was green. He had beaten body and in his next two fights, he lost to guys nobody has ever heard of. Insignificant win. Johnson was nowhere near his prime.

You're right, he was feared and he was a big puncher, but that was undeserved. He didn't carry his power to 160lbs and he clearly didn't belong in the division. Look at what Winky did to him for further proof.

He was also coming off filming Rocky and having to lose a massive amount of muscle.

Unbeaten rising star, yes, but he was still an alcoholic who belongs nowhere near 170lbs even today.

And he was fat.

 

Hopkins didn't turn down $3m. He accepted it, because it was his biggest payday ever, and then the next day, demanded $6m, which is far more than the fight would have even generated. Instead, he fought Hakkar for peanuts.

 

you guys are ****ing stupid. can's are stationary punching bag boxers who can't really box. Kessler is more a tomato can than an antwun echols or glen johnson. he was just a very good one.
you dumb ****s need to get off the damn names of the opponents and try looking at the style and fighting ability of them you damn dick riders. if a fighter fights against a variety of styles and against fighters with different advantages, that says more than beating the same exact type of fighter over and over again.
Jones fought a lot of tomato cans, but regardless of who was across him, the results would probably be the same. only about two fighters could've come close to beating him in his prime.

 

this has got to be one of bailey's alts. he argues just like him. now all we need is the long ass list of boxerec **** to hide the fact that he doesn't know **** about boxing. some people you just can't win with.