If RJJ retired after Ruiz where ATG ?

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  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He has knocked off 2 HoF....how is that an alarming rate? Simple HoF Jones has at least 4 on his resume.

    Pacman has been at 130 for quite a while now, still has not fought a champion. Jones fought and beat 8 champions at LHW alone.
     
  2. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Vinny Paz, James Toney, Montell Griffinth, Virgil Hill, Clinton Woods arent cans. And those were the fighters featured in the video.
     
  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Name the cans. You won't be able to name more than 5 after he beat Hopkins. Unless we are starting to consider Top 10 ranked fighters and champions cans. People often exxagerate Jones "civil servants" resume. There are perhaps 3-6 average to below average fighters on his resume after the Hopkins fight.
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Griffin beat Toney 2 times before Jones fought him, was unbeaten and a top 3 LHW. Hill is one of the longest reigning champions in any weight class ever and a HoF fighter. Pazienza shouldn't have been at 168. Not a bum, but not a good fighter there.
     
  5. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Pac needs to do a lot before his resume is cemented, and fighting Barrera does jack and **** for that.

    He needs to beat Marquez first off.
     
  6. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    People make too big a deal out of a fighter staying on too long and "hurting his legacy". Most great fighters suck at the end of their careers.


    Griffin was a tricky awkward little guy, but I wouldn't say he beat Toney 2 times. THE JUDGES beat Toney 2 times.

    Griffin didn't deserve either decision.
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought he deserved the 2nd one and have sinced scored the first one a win for Toney and a draw when I rewatched it again. However, this disqualifies Griffin from the "bum" catagory no matter what. Later on he wasn't as good, but he certainly was a good fighter.
     
  8. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Cans does seem to be the popular desription of Jones opponents..... I can't name too many, why dont you?:yep
     
  9. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not sure but a lot higher than after losing 3/4, including 2 1-punch KO's. That hurt his ATG status considerably, IMO.
     
  10. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Tarver Ko'd him with 1 punch, johnson didn't he broke him down.