If Ruiz Can Do This To Haye, What Will Wlad Do?

interesting, but i dont think wlad will knock him out. Haye against ruiz wasnt scared so he didnt mind taking some shots, But against wlad or bigger brother he will be scared of the power and try to emulate what he did against valuev but it wont work with wlad being a million times better boxer than valuev, klithck by easy decision. Plus i rekon wlad will be a bit concerned from hayes power aswell and will be very controlled,

 

I don't understand why Haye sits in a shoulder blocking stance... and doesn't block with his shoulder

 

Haye didn't spar in the run up to that fight, he was recovering from a cut remember.

 

5ft 9 Frogomeni hurt Haye and busted his face up!

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Shoulder blocking stance? He has his left hand low and fights like that because he's a counter puncher and he's trying to get them to throw.

 

Haye likes to fight with his left shoulder in front like that a lot. He forgets to keep his right hand out there to parry a lot, but it's a shoulder blocking stance for sure. That's why that stance is useful, your head is ideally far away from any headhunting punches someone can throw. part of a good defense in this style is definitely being able to block well with the shoulder and elbow.... Haye doesn't take advantage of the natural advantages of this defensive stance. He moves away from punches with his feet and body.

 

His defence has never been the best, and the shot-to-**** Ruiz showed us why. Haye is very fortunate that he's operating in the most dire heavyweight scene in history, otherwise he'd have faced guys who would have brutally exposed those defensive flaws. Imagine what the likes of Tyson, Holmes, Holyfield and a Tua would have done to him.

With that said, he does have a great chance against the not-so-tough Wladimir. One Hayemaker is enough to put him out, in my opinion.

 

I've only really notice Haye go into the shoulder-blocking stance, when he's on the defensive and running away from opponents. And yes, he's not very good at it.

 

Your an idiot

I'll put what i post in the other thread here to.

Ruiz has a completely different style to Wlad, he is a non stop pressure fighter, and your going to take shots from a fighter like that at some stage because of there style. Wlad is nothing like that style. Not to mention Haye had pretty much zilch sparring for that fight because of a cut.

How many times did the biggest heavyweight in history with the longest reach manage to hit Haye in 12 rounds? How many times did Harrison hit Haye? 1 jab out of 30 odd thrown. Maccarenneli landed 1 or 2 shots in 2 rounds.

Not to mention Haye will not be as reckless against Wlad as he was against Ruiz or Barrett as he respects his power.

He can fight many different ways whereas Wlad hides behind the jab every single fight.

The only style that gives Haye problems is short come forward pressure fighters, like Ruiz, Mormeck, Fragomeni.

 

His D is all mostly athleticism, sadly. He has some solid counterpunching and head movement but when he slows down he's going to get beaten pillar to post. It's actually a good idea for him to retire early, to be honest...

 

This basically :good

How the OP cant see the style differences is beyond me, stupid ****er :nut