If Ruiz Jr & Usyk can chin AJ

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  1. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    If Hasim Rahman can chin Lennox Lewis, so can Dillian Whyte....

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  2. Special one

    Special one Active Member Full Member

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    Ruiz 'chinned' AJ but Usyk certainly did not. Fury did get chinned by Nganou and embarrassed the sport of boxing by letting that happen, it's up to AJ to put that right now.
     
  3. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    There were two major contributing factors in the way the Fury vs Ngannou fight played out:

    The raw strength and chin of Ngannou – there was nothing that Fury could do with Ngannou. Fury was getting overpowered in the clinch. Also even though Fury out landed Ngannou, his punches had minimal affect, I can’t recall one time Ngannou seemed to be bothered by getting hit by Fury.

    No boxing footage of Ngannou available for Fury and his team to study – an obvious factor here. When’s the last time a world boxing champion faced an opponent where there’s no footage to study?

    These two factors won’t be an issue for Joshua as he should be able to come close in matching Ngannou’s raw strength which means he’s not going to get overpowered in the clinch, he’s also got the punching power to keep Ngannou honest.

    Joshua trumps Ngannou in pretty much every category:
    - Speed
    - Punching power
    - Punching accuracy
    - Stamina
    - Boxing skills
    - Defence
    - Raw strength (probably on par with Ngannou)

    Ngannou’s only advantage over Joshua is his ability to take a punch, both to the head and body. I think Ngannou would give most heavyweight boxers problems, Joshua is all wrong for him though.

    I predict Joshua will put on a 12 round boxing clinic.
     
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  4. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    AJ holds most advantages and should win but I don't think he hits harder than Ngannou.

    He's also nowhere close to Ngannou's raw strength. Even Usyk was pushing AJ off in the clinch. Ngannou is just as lean as AJ but over 20 lbs heavier.

    Fury couldn't move Ngannou an inch.
     
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  5. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Active Member Full Member

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    And I agree with everything you said but I have to say if he was lighter and more mobile in the Joshua rematch he might well have beaten him again.
     
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  6. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    You might be right regarding the raw strength, I don't think there's much difference though and I doubt it will cause Joshua many problems. I wouldn't be surprised if Joshua puts on a bit of extra muscle and comes in a bit heavier than usual to counteract this. Or he might come in lighter than usual and focus on boxing him at range. There's multiple paths to victory for Joshua when you consider his assets.

    I don't think there's much difference in punching power, I give Joshua the edge but that probably won't be apparent in the fight as Ngannou has an iron chin and body.
     
  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Yeah that's a fair comment, I agree. Joshua really danced around the ring fully safety on lol.
     
  8. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Ruiz Jr 2 fight with a man who isn't physically limited as Ruiz Jr or mentally a slob.

    AJ will run on the jab and Francis will not chase but cut off the ring and pin down the bodybuilder
     
  9. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not how boxing works though is it
     
  10. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    For starters, Usyk didn’t chin AJ….