If Sanchez loses to Kabayel, ban me for a month.

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  1. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Kabayel is better known than Sanchez.
     
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  2. Serge

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    You're banking on Cubano Slickness >>> German Kurdish Slickness. It's very sound logic given how Cuba has long been one of the powerhouses of amateur boxing and the depth of talent we've seen emanate from those shores, whereas, conversely, I can't think of another slickster outside of Kabayel from the German Kurdish school. But we have to judge these things on an individual basis and for me Kabayel's slickness >>> Sanchez's and I have good reason to believe that Sanchez might well be packing Cuban glass up top and Kabayel can crack a bit. So can Sanchez too but the difference is Kabayel has shown no signs of packing glass, or at least so far he hasn't
     
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  3. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Dont agree at all tbh

    Sanchez has poor IQ Imo and is not proven to be more powerful
    Faster, yes but that's not going to stop the Kab man cutting that ring off
     
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  4. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Kabayel is one of the most underrated heavies in the division. Then again, so is Sanchez. This is a very competitive fight on paper between two of the more skillful guys at this weight. No need to feel bad picking the loser in this one.
     
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  5. Shazzar23

    Shazzar23 Demetrius Bivol Full Member

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    I can. I think he's older than he said and he nearly got knocked out by a literally who. Sanchez isn't as slick as some make him out to be. The only decent fighter Sanchez has fought is Ajagba, and Ajagba himself has a big asterisk on his name.
     
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  6. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And jokes aside: I do think it's a toss up fight with Kabayel bringing a lot of good things to the table. Having seen the Chisora fight only recently, I couldn't understand how Makhmudov was supposed to crush that man (I know, hindsight is 20/20, but Kabayel has great body mechanics, composure, and movement economy, and it's clear after a thirty seconds or so.)

    Sanchez is crafty, tricky, curiously unorthodox, and willing to chacal through the fight (spoil, move, deny engagements even if it means being booed into oblivion), and combines that scrappiness with Cuban education. That being said I don't think he is that good all around, and was clearly inconsistent in his last few outings.

    Curious about the odds. I might end up putting coin on Kabayel, but taking the ban bet notwithstanding.

    Loyalty and a follow through do exist in my dictionary, and I like to refresh the meaning of them often.
     
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There are 2 reasons Frank's promoter convinced the WBC to order this fight

    Sanchez has got this. It is perfect matchmaking, and everyone will see on the night, although if I'm wrong I'll gladly give Kabayel the credit, I knew he'd beat Makhmudov and he's a good fighter
     
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  8. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    I'm going off the marketability of each fighter.

    How long has it been since Kabayel beat Chisora? Quite a while. It's been what, 5 years since that victory? Chisora, since that defeat, has since fought Usyk and fought for a world title against Fury. This indicates there is an issue with Kabayel's marketability.

    Sanchez, 6'4, 240 pounds of pure muscle with fast hands and with pop are extremely impressive attributes. Very marketable attributes. Something a promoter might favour.

    I'll leave it at that with you.
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Did you manage to miss Kabayel's 4th round toppling of the divisional boogeyman Arslanbek Makhmudov on the same card that Sanchez struggled for 5 rounds against Junior Fa, before finally getting to him in the 6th and stopping him in the 7th? You know, the same Junior Fa that got KTFO in one by the shell of Lucas Browne? This was one fight after Sanchez came within a literally **** hair of being KO'd by Scott Alexander of all ****ing people.:lol:
     
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  10. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Clearly Makhmudov wasn't a boogeyman.

    Regarding Fa and his defeat against Browne. Browne is a slugger, he swings for the fences and is a big man, he caught Fa good. Fa gave Parker a good fight.

    Sanchez seems to take his time with his opponent, I think he likes to taste the power of his opponent before stepping it up a notch. Similar to a heroin junkie pushing his boundaries.
     
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  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Maybe he wasn't, but one thing's for certain, Makhmudov has wins over Takam and Wach on his resume, both of whom are far more impressive than anyone Sanchez has on his, including a green clueless Ajagba. He also KO'd Julian Fernandez 4 rounds faster than Sanchez. Speaking of Ajagba, Makh managed to stop Jonathan Rice in 7, something Efe couldn't do. So arguably that makes Makhmudov better than Sanchez's best win.
     
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  12. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    I agree with you regarding the quality of wins comparing Sanchez, Kabayel and Makhmudov. A rational individual such as yourself would put Sanchez at number three regarding that trio when it comes to the caliber of victories.

    There's an X factor though with a lot of upcoming fighters throughout history, it defies statistics. Similar to when Fury fought Klitschko, or when Joshhua fought Klitschko, Pacquiao fought Marquez or an Ali vs Liston. The list goes on when it comes to the eye test going in when a fighter steps up.

    They all have one thing in common though, these victors have a promoter's insight and funding which doesn't seem to be very communicable to the public, I'm assuming they don't want it to be very communicable to the public. Sanchez has access to that in my opinion.
     
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  13. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Id favour Sanchez against Kabayel, good fight.
     
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  14. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Why is that if you don't mind me asking?
     
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  15. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like the look of Sanchez. Quick counter puncher, astute technically, good defence and good foot work for a HW.
     
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