If Schmelling got the decision in the Sharkey rematch

I'm fairly sure that Schmeling could beat Carnera, despite the height advantage. Assuming he faces the same competition that Carnera had in Uzcudun and Loughran, I see him winning both of those fights as well. Considering what happened when he fought Baer in 1933, I don't see him doing much better one year after that. I see Schmeling holding the title for two more years if he got the decision against Sharkey.

 

Good question.

I think that he might actually have put a bit of a title reign together to be honest.

I am minded to think that he would have beaten Carnera, because he was more consistent than Sharkey.

 

Carnera was prety good for a spell. I'm not saying he was an all timer at all but for a time good enough to upset anyone on a bad day. Schmeling had a bad day against Hamas, maybe if he gets past Carnera Max loses the title to Baer or Hamas?

 

A title defense vs Baer in Nazi Germany is a fascinating proposition...Baer, with that Jewish star on his trunks....this is a thread topic of it's own.

 

People always lump and compare Schmeling and Sharkey but by the time Max hit the top Sharkey had peaked. If I didn't know that Baer beat Schmeling I'd be giving Schmeling a reign up to the second Louis fight.

 

My thoughts!

 

I would think Schmeling would decision Carnera in a rather tactical and dull encounter. His well timed right probably could floor the preem but I doubt his style would lend itself to finishing him. Not sure the Baer encounter would come off considering the circumstances, he would probably hold he title until the Louis rematch.
His reign may look something like this: Sharkey, Stribling, Sharkey, Walker, Carnera, --Louis wins title.

 

He would have been the first man to regain the title,which,[ if he had been given the title shot against Braddock he deserved,] I think he would have achieved. Max beats Carnera ,Walker ,Uzcudun then loses to Baer.

 

Sharkey is easily a top 50 heavyweight of all time. Top 30. He defeated multiple hall of famers. He knocked out Tommy Loughran in three rounds. He defeated the two best heavyweights of Color post Johnson and Pre Louis, in Godfrey and Wills. During a time when not many fighters would fight them. In retrospect Wills may have been shot or badly faded but going in he was undefeated for years. Plus a slew of good contenders from the era like Delaney, McTigue, Maloney, Stribling. Then he gave Dempsey a great fight in a losing effort. In a relatively short career he fought outstanding opposition.

 

Loughran himself is one of the best heavyweights never to hold the title, and arguably top 50 himself.

Sharkeys inconsistency late in his career, masks his incredible prime run. When you look at that, and cut the rest off, it is hard to see how he could be outside the top 50.

Just setting these hares running!

 

Schmeling never fought Loughran.

Loughran defeated Braddock, Baer,Sharkey, all at one time held the heavy crown.
He also beat:
Uzcudun
Renault
Hamas
Levinsky
Schaaf
Griffiths
Godoy
Risko
All contenders .Janitor is correct ,he is one of the best men never to have held the title.

 

Schmeling never fought Loughran, but it would have been a very intrigueing fight, I must say.

 

Sharkey in his prime was very very good. It's plausible that he lost his drive after the Schmeling disqualification. He clearly goes into a tailspin the remainder of his career. Some guys gradually diminish and others fall off a cliff. He seems to be a case of the latter. If you credit Schmeling with a win in the second bout like most do, Sharkey's career really goes downhill.
Mickey Walker: draw (many felt Walker deserved the verdict)
Carnera: win
Schmeling: should have lost
Carnera: KO loss
King Levinsky: loss
Tommy Loughran: loss
Unknown Winston: win many believed was a fix
Tony Shucco: loss
Tony Shucco: draw
Then a win and an out of retirement loss to Louis.
If you remove the Winston fight and credit Walker and Schmeling with wins Sharkey's career after the first Schmeling fight is:
2-7-1 with his only wins being over Carnera and a journeyman. Pretty much definition of shot.
However going into the first Schmeling fight he already had an outstanding career with the list of names mentioned in an earlier post.