If some of you think PACQUIAO is on PEDs...then why wouldn't HOPKINS also be on PEDs?

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  1. BEASTLY PEPE

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    Wildcard is a clean gym open to the public.

    The Mayweather gym is private, keep an eye on them.
     
  2. Strongback

    Strongback Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What do these fighters have in common:

    Wladimir Klitschko
    Manny Pacquiao
    Shane Mosley
    Bernard Hopkin's
    Vitali Klitschko
    Evander Holyfield
    David Haye
    Jean Pascal
    James Toney
    Amir Khan

    Yeah that's right they have all taken steroids, EPO, HGH or other PED's. Drugs in sport are as common as Smarties. People are being totally naive if they think fighters don't take drugs.


    When I looked at Wlad's conditioning for the Chagaev fight I knew he was on steroids. There is a certain look to a steroid user, the vascularity and hardness of the muscle.

    Obviously Vitali has admitted to being a drug user. I have no doubt David Haye used drugs to make his transition from Cruiser to Heavyweight. If only Haye could find out what Amir Khan took to put muscles on his chin he could actually beat a Klitschko.
     
  3. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We're drifting a little off subject but it's OK. Actually if anythng, concerning Pacquiao, it just shows that he's fighting slower fighters that get peppered left and right from punches they don't react to as quickly as the smaller guys for the most part.

    Pacquiao didn't bust Clottey's face up because of the high guard but he busted Margarito's because no one landed anywhere near as many flush combos on his face round after round after round. The same can most likely be said for Cotto & Diaz. It just so happens that those 3 fighters have poor defenses and practically everything thrown with anywhere near any precision, actually lands !

    Even if you're 200 pounds, if you let a little man like that constantly land on you precise flush punches after precise flush punches...eventually your face will get busted all up too.
     
  4. RightHandLead17

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    becuz even in his old age hopkins is still an average fighter...he didnt suddenly turn 45, jump up 2 classes, and looked better then he even did
     
  5. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because, Pac was getting buzzed by little guys like JMM, and now he is breaking the orbital bones of guys outweighing him by nearly 20 lbs, taking their best shots, and saying the fights were, unexpectedly, "easy" after. :lol:


    Seriously, as
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    said, when someone of note puts that accusation in the air, people will start asking questions. But, I bet Hopkins won't try to sue them because of it. In fact...he will, most likely, attempt to do whatever possible to prove himself to be a clean athlete. Because, he is cut from that cloth.

    Obviously, Pac is not cut from the same cloth, however, he has never failed a commission required drug test. So, he is not a cheat, until proven otherwise.
     
  6. oli

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    They are not even remotely comparable. Pacquiao went from not knocking everyone out at superfeatherweight....to absolutely beating half to death EVEYONE from 140 up and his chin is suddenly indestructable.

    Very strange. I like Pacquiao and hes great for boxing. But is he on steroids??....well he wouldnt take floyds tests so you have to wonder
     
  7. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are kidding right. ODLH, a Mexican-American, was the face of boxing, for the longest.
     
  8. Mr Pink

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    Do you think he would agree to a 7 day cut off if he was on steroids? Really?

    They stop taking blood like 3 days before the fight anyway so it's 4 more days he's asking for. You think he's gonna juice in that week before the fight with the eyes of the world on him? Come on bro.

    He's gona from 28 days to 7 days yet still it's not good enough apparently. Even though Floyd only wanted 14 days last time.
     
  9. bigstinkybug

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    *I have to agree... there's a reason why no one's ever done what Pac is doing in the history of boxing... he's he starts at 112 pounds and is more dominant than ever at 150 pounds..hahah,damn.
    *Pac nevr really gets tired, hits harder than ever and is killing guys like Margarito, who had a great training camp and weighed 20 pounds more... damnnnn! and didn't Pac say"this is the worst training camp ever.."
    *To my knowledge, Pac isn't a gold medalist or even has a great amatuer pedagree.. pac comes out of no where and is Ko'ing everyone... he's beating great fighters..making them quit... and each higher weight div, he looks stronger... c'mon... it doesn't make anyone think?
     
  10. fighter86

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    Why do fighters look much bigger these days than fighters of the past ,look how small SRL look compared to fighters nowadays ,something to think about.
     
  11. crimson

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    But according to others Pac is beating old, washed up, drained, shot fighters.

    so which is it? Great fighters in great shaper or washed up shot drained mediocre fighters?
     
  12. Babality

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    Because we all saw how Foreman fought and who he fought.

    Not saying Hopkins is on steroids though.
     
  13. Sister Sledge

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    The things that Pac does in the ring are incredible to me. Seeing where he came from to where he is now, it's seems far-fetched for a little guy like him to do the things he does. Either he's the greatest fighter of my time, or he is juicing. There was a serum that the military was going to start giving soldiers that gave them increased stamina, strength and such. It was experimental.
    There are over-the-counter shakes and drinks that increase stamina and vitality, so it is possible.
    Hopkins is just the best technical fighter of our time. You can't beat him in a thinking game, because he has so many tricks. You have to outfight him.
     
  14. punisher

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    Not true. If Timothy Bradley jumps up to 160 and makes Martinez quit, you don't think people will be saying he is on PEDs? :lol: Come on man...really.
     
  15. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    I've seen him before he hit the big time. He was already ripped. Even homegirl knew him from HS. He's been like that since HS. Mother****er ran track back then too so stamina is not gonna be an issue for that ninja turtle looking mother****er.
     
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