If someone had told you back in 2004 that Pacman would

I would have told them that they were ****in' insane.

I knew that Pac was a great fighter. I was one of the only people on ESB to pick him over Barrera in their first fight. However, I also picked JMM and Morales against him in their first fights. Morales beat him, and I felt that JMM beat him too... both times actually. I never would have thought that he would have gotten so much better. As he moved up in weight, he has also kept his lightning hands. Not enough credit is given to Freddie Roach transforming him from "hop,Hop straight left"..... into such a versatile fighter. Manny has a great right hand now... great with the jab, and great with the right hook. His difference in movement is incredible as well. Manny is a completely different fighter.

 

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I will.....:smoke Just as soon as you remove Floyd's nuts from your mouth *****.

 

Maybe we can start a poll or someting and see what % of esb members want him back..

 

Can't blame him. If you stumble onto something extraordinary, you will have that kind of zeal. A prophet is like that. Turned out Pacd is a prophet. Sadly, this is a non-prophet site. :yep

 

I'm guessing no.

 

Pac has always been underrated. He has a style of fighting that boxing fans underrate. He was alot more underrated back then.

 

I would have laughed in his face, if only because i never thought Pac would fill out so well at higher weights. Some fighters have the strange ability to go up in weight and maintain their physical attributes well, it's a rare quality that few people have.

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How exactly?