If Sonny Liston fought Harold Johnson

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  1. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Just read on boxrec about the second Marshall fight:

    "Marshall substituted on four days notice for Harold Johnson who injured his shoulder in training"

    If Liston had Johnson on his record, would that be big boost in his HW ranking?
     
  2. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Johnson was able to outbox Liston at around that time in their respective careers.

    The fight almost happened in the early 60's as well but it would have been a mismatch by then.
     
  3. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Liston was too big for Harold...a bad matchup, IMO.
     
  5. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To big? he was 6 ft tall
     
  6. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lmao i love when fans open up about people they know dick about
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I think that Johnson would be a tough asignment for Liston at this stage of his career. Assuming Liston won then yes it would be a verry good scalp.

    Johnson is the counter argument for those who say that the heavyweights of the early 50s would have been overmatched against those of the 60s. He was a heavyweight contende who didn't quite make it to a title shot in the 50s and at the twilight of his career he beat Eddie Machen more convincingly than Sonny Liston did and beat Doug Jones more convincingly than Muhamad Ali did.

    Perhaps ultimatley he merely demonstrates the futility of trying to compare two eras based on matches between a few contenders whose careers overlaped.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I think your'e probably right here ,into the 60's Liston would have too much for Johnson ,but the guy that Marshall outfoxed ,would probably be out skilled by Harold.
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Liston was 6' 1'' Johnson 5'10''
     
  10. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Johnson would have outboxed the raw Liston.
     
  11. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    Johnson, at that time, would have outboxed and outfoxed Liston, too much experience, and he wouldn't be intimidated by Sonny, either.
     
  12. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd give it to Johnson, frankly.

    Just a really skilled, seasoned fighter, too smart and too slick.

    But I'm a huge Harold Johnson fan, and I grew up as a boxer to a lot of footage of this guy.
     
  13. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I'd pick Johnson but he could be hurt and stopped.

    The Liston of that time, still raw, might still manage it.
     
  14. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Johnson probably would not be able to "bark like a dog"......Harold was a little more "reserved".
     
  15. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Harold in 54. Liston post 57