Inspired by the Johnson/Sullivan threads of the same ilk. How would Sonny's life have panned out? Safe to assume that he would have mentored George Foreman and would have been with George in Jamaica 1973 along with Saddler-Moore-Sadler when Foreman won the title. Would Sonny have eventually become friends with Muhammad Ali? I see Liston taking a liking to a young Mike Tyson.
Would have been interesting, Stevie, see him following the 70 s and 80 s scene. His opinion of The Golden era, Larry Holmes and Tyson etc. The grand old man of boxing, hopefully a more peaceful life in his latter years to.
If he was in George's corner with Archie Moore, Foreman would beat Ali because Foreman respected Liston the most.
Realistically, this would’ve severely hindered the growth and development of George Foreman. Not as a boxer, he would’ve been much better. But as a person. Liston never would’ve been friends with ali, mainly because he would never engage in a non-aggressive conversation with him. Liston and mike as a team probably couldn’t have worked very well, even though they are my two favorite boxers their fighting styles are radically different with listons style being focused on his mutant genetics which mike didnt have.
Liston was famously believed to be way older than the age he claimed. He gave a birthdate of 1932. I think there is at least a bit of a consensus that it might actually have been 1930, there are some people who even believe he was born as far back as 1922. None of us will probably ever know with metaphysical certitude, he was born in a time and place and environment where records were, shall we say, sketchy.
Would the man ever have developed a moral compass to where he could do the things suggested? That's the operative question IMO.
I read in a book “the real story behind the liston and ali fights”(or something of that nature) it said he was born 17-19 but even if thats the case he died in 1970 so how could he be 90?
Not sure that this would have made much difference to the Zaire result. There would have been even more commotion in the Foreman corner.
Ali and Liston actually were on relatively good terms by the end of Liston's life. Enough so for Ali to visit him in his dressing room before his final fight against Chuck Wepner. Clay bent over the scowling 219-pound Liston in the dressing room and whispered, "Go out there and win tonight, champ." It brought the only smile of the night to Liston's face. https://ibb.co/WsW5frZ