If SRR has started his career in say...2000...

yep u cant even be mad earing **** like that u can just feel sry for the guy.

 

There have been quite a few fantastic welter and middle weight fighters in the last decade who could have very possibly beaten SRR. A Prime Manny, Forrest, Mosley, Oscar, Trindad, Mayorga, and Trinidad all have a good punchers chance against the great Robinson. Guys who would need to rely on boxing skills, like Floyd, would have much less of a chance because Robinson was the ultimate in boxing skill. But a strong puncher like Forrest or Tito, or a RELENTLESS pressure fighter with immense physical size (Margarito) or power (Mayorga) would also have a chance.... even if its a small one.

 

Yep and imagine if a guy like SRR had access to all that in 2000. Better trainer my ass....they get dummer.

 

RTB I got mad respect for you still trying to explain this guy.

 

See, I disagree, I think Ray Robinson is the ultimate welter physical beast behind Hearns with a better chin than hearns had, but actually doesn't have the solid defense of Floyd or Benitez. You need to have guys who were great at welter and effective at middle to challenge him, so Leonard and hearns probably belong in the ring with him, as do bigger guys like jones, hopkins, hagler, etc.

I think he is MUCH more like a Roy Jones type fighter: with speed and power and a few technical flaws that allowed Basillio and LaMotta to capitilize on range and fighting inside, but when that left he started to lose to guys because his technical skill was not as complete as Hopkins, though in his prime he was far more physically impressive. Anyone see that golden glove clip where he hits the kid, the kid goes flying into the ring post like Mike Tyson hit him? It was physicality like a prime Jones had, but he's just a little smaller framed.

 

Who said he ducked him? The point i replied to said Robinson took on all comers, that's not true. He never straight up ducked burley, who was never his mandatory and for the majority of their career it was spent at a different weigt but a career best pay day was offered to Robinson to fight him and he turned him down. Now he never had to fight burley and if he was his mandatory I'm sure he would have done but the risk reward did not make sense. Still it's no exactly taking all comers on

 

Yeah in the age of internet / video replays / examining ur opponents the trainers get dummer.atschatschatsch

*****s = tards of baaaaaaxxxxxxxxxxxxxinnng...

 

So what you're saying if SRR was fighting today, he wouldn't be as good because he used 1950's technology and training while all his competition would be using modern technology :huh

 

you guys and your fantasy scenarios haha..We'll never know, different fighters from different eras, so have fun arguing with each other.

 

If Ray Robinson turned pro in 2000 he is likely on the US Olympic team of that year. Winning the Gold at lightweight. by beating both d Andriy Kotelnik (and Mario Kindelan About 19 years old and known as Walker Smith Jr.
Comming off a gold medal he is going to be singed to a big promotional contract and on the fast tract to a wolrd championship fight (2003).
By 2003 Walker Smith has grown into his 5'11" frame and is a welterweight with a 15-0 (14) record. The current champions as of 1/1/2000 are Michele Piccirillo (IBF), Ricardo Mayorga (WBA) , Vernon Forrest (WBC) and Antonio Margarito (WBO).
I think his first atempt for a championship will come against Margarito (WBO) in Feb 2003. Margarito will prove his toughness but Smith's skils and power will lead to a 9th round stoppage. 16-0 (15).
His next fight is July,2003 vs. Ricardo Mayorga for the IBF championship. Smith wins in 11 rounds 17-0 (16).
After a long lay off Smith returns to the ring in Oct of 2004 winns a 10 rounder in easy fashon. 18-0 (17) and looks to regain a welterweight championship or win one at light middleweight. In Jan of 2005 he faces Kassim Ouma for the IBF light middleweight championship. Ouma is able to make Smith fight and at times looks very good against Smith who up to this point in his young career has looked unbeatable. Smith takes a surprisingly close decision win. 19-0 (17). Ouma and Smith rematch in July of 05. This time Smith is not inticed into a fight and boxes his way to a one-sided decision. 20-0 (17). December 2005 Smith takes on Daniel Santos. For the WBO 154 championship. Smoth takes the WBO championship by 7th round stoppage. 21-0 (18).
In July 06 he goes back down to 147 to face WBC champion Carlos Baldomir. Smith takes a one-sided decision. 22-0 (18). Nov 2006. Smith takes on his toughest test to date Floyd Mayweather Jr. Mayweather is 36-0 (24) going in to the bout. Base on his experance he would be a slight favrote going in. Robinson would often beat himself by chosing to fight as opposed to box. Mayweather has proven himself pretty good at getting his oppoents to fight him as opposed to box with him which plays into his hands. Mayweather is able to get Smith to be more agressive than he should be. Veteran guile wins the day over youth. Mayweather by a close decision. 22-1 (18).
In May of 2007 Smith returns to 154 and beats Serhiy Dzinziruk in a one-sided decision for the WBO championship 23-1 (18). December 2007 Smith goes against Joachim Alcine for the WBA 154 championship. Smith by first round stoppage. 23-1 (19).
Going in to 2008 Smith who's repatuation took a hit with his loss to Mayweather is starting to regain his repatuationas one of the world's best boxers. In March of 08 he faces Cory Spinks for the IBF 154 championship. Smith keeps Spinks at bay with his reach and stops him in the 9th round. 24-1 (19). September 2008. Smith faces Sergio Mora for the WBC 154 championship. Mora makes the fight ugly but Smith is able to out box him and take a decision. 25-1 (19).
April of 2009, Smith moves to Middleweight and takes on Felix Strum for the WBA middle weight championship. Smith wins in 11 rounds. 26-1 (20). In November of 09 Smith defends against Khoren Gevor. Smith wins in 10 rounds. 27-1 (21). In April 2010 Smith takes on WBC 160 champion Sebastian Zbik. Smith wins in 10 rounds. 28-1 (22).
There is talk of Smith going back to 147 for a Pacquiao or Mayweather (rematch) fight but nothing comes up.
October 2010 Smith faces Sebastian Sylvester for the IBF 160 championship. Smith wins in 9 rounds 29-1 (23).
March 2011 Smith take on Sergio Martinez. This along with Mayweather/Pacquiao is boxings best match up. Martinez gives Smith his first real test since Mayweather. It is a compitive bout but Smith is the clear decision winner. 30-1 (23)
This is where Walker Smith Jr.'s Career would stand right now. There are three schools of thought of who the Pound for Pound best in the sport is. Pacquiao, Mayweather and Smith. Smith (30) has a lot of opitions right now. Idealy would be the winner of Mayweather/Pacquiao to decide the true #1 P4P boxer in the world and a chance to avange his only loss if Mayweather wins. Not wanting to wait for that to happen Dmitry Pirog Holds the WBO 160 championship. There is Lucian Bute who holds the IBF supper middleweight championship. (everyone else is tied into the super6.) At light middleweight the champions are Cornelius Bundrage (IBF), Austian Trout/Miguel Cotto (WBA), Saul Alvarez.
At this point Smith is a top 25 All Time Great, with the potentional to be one of the best if not the best ever. At 30 he should have 5-10 more years as one of the best boxers in the world. Posibily winning championships at 168 & 175 before he is done.
What I expect to happen is for Mayweather to beat Ortiz and Pacquiao to beat Marquez (an upset would not surprise me), and for Mayweather to beat Pacquiao in May 2012. Setting up Mayweather/Smith II in December of 2012. In the mean time Smith has at least one more fight if not two more. He is most likely to face 2/3 out of Cotto, Alvarez and Alfredo Angulo at 154.
Mayweather/Walker II is likely for June 2013.

 

I think a lot of people aren't taking into consideration that if SRR was around today he would have all the advantages that today's athletes have over athletes of years past as well. SRR would still be the GOAT.

 

Rjj would be the only one to beat him, maybe. Srr still hit very hard up to MW and he boxed as well or better than Bhops. Despite being abit smaller, it wasnt a significant difference and I think Srr hit harder than Bhops. This aint Tito Rjj or Bhops would be facing this is the greatest WW ever. Srr was past his prime at MW, but still great. Calzaghe being a pressure fighter like LaMotta and Fulmer might of drawn or gotten kod like they did. Srr was and is the creme of the crop. As for the welters, Srr knows how to use his reach well and Floyds defense would not be able to pick him apart. Srr smoothness and composure rivals Floyds and Money not used to that. Adding to that, Floyd never faced such a good boxer that also had one punch power. Floyd once feeling his power only survives and loses a UD15. Pacman puts a more spirited effort, but gets stopped in his tracks. He also loses on a UD. Too big, too fast, and too strong.