If Stevenson beats Valdez, is he top 10 P4P?

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  1. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    If he dominates he has a chance to sniff the top ten. I put him outside the top ten because Valdez should have lost his last fight. He did beat Berchelt legitimately although he pissed hot afterwards I believe. I know he tested positive as recently as September for some kind of stimulant. Maybe had trouble making weight so he took speed of some kind. Either way, I like Stevenson a lot and expect him to be on the PFP list very soon if not after this fight. Good young fighter possible star at LW someday. I like that he’s game and doesn’t seem to be ducking anyone. Guys at his stage of the game need to take note. Stevenson is the real deal and will be making noise at LW soon. I’d like to see him fight Tank or Ryan Garcia sometime. Lots of exciting talent coming to an exciting weight. Looking forward to seeing some great fights soon.
     
  2. Jpreisser

    Jpreisser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I stated on Facebook years ago that I believe Stevenson might be the best fighter America has had come out of the Olympics in a long time, but the idea of him being a two-division "champion" in the pros is nonsense. He's a two-class titlist. His first was a vacant "Welcome Home" treat against an unranked but still good Joet Gonzalez. His next was Herring, who on the other hand was a highly-ranked boxer and a guy that has improved since his losses. But I also think he benefitted from Top Rank's matchmaking and appeared better than what he was. Herring is nothing like a genuine elite. I don't see Valdez as a near-p4p guy either, as he's had a number of tight fights with fringe guys and his shining performance was a weight-drained Berchelt (I rarely use that as an excuse). Given that, Valdez is probably the #2 guy in the class and this fight will represent a Linear Championship bout, which is significant. If Stevenson wins handily, he will be in the orbit of the top-10, but not quite there. That is unless there are significant changes soon, like Golovkin or Spence or someone else loses.
     
  3. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    I wish that would be true however Valdez has been bumped out of the rankings by both the Ring and TRBB rankings.
    Si this will NOT be for the championship.
     
  4. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its not that long ago he was fighting at 126, and fought at 123lbs in the Olympics where they weigh in every day.

    Hes not THAT big.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I've seen Stevenson twice in person and stood within 10 feet of him he's tiny and looks like a teenage boy.
     
  6. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not too long ago people were considering having him in the Top 10 P4P list after he beat Berchelt. If Stevenson beats Valdez then there's no doubt that he'd be on the P4P list as well.
     
  7. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Josh Taylor’s performance against Catteral proves that this idiotic weight bully argument was just that: an idiotic argument. If Stevenson is cutting too much weight, It’ll catch up to him eventually.

    Regarding the question of the thread, talent-wise Stevenson is up there(and is probably the most talented fighter below the age 25),but back to back wins over Herring and Valdez are far from enough for a p4p top10 spot.
     
  8. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wanna bet if Stevenson wins, some posters will call him the next Floyd Mayweather?
     
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  9. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bar certainly is low these days, for everything in boxing.
     
  10. Jpreisser

    Jpreisser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm on the TBRB rankings board. If I have my information correct, Valdez is removed for a period of six months, meaning he should be reinstated by the time it rolls around.
     
  11. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    Are you?That s awesome!
    Ok,but on which slot does Valdez come back in?And then I would have to ask…..given it s a 6 month “ban” after whoch he comes back…..what is the point of it?
     
  12. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    Stevenson will be Top 10 (Maybe Top 5) P4P for sure. Stevenson will school Valdez 12-0 or bust him up to a cuts stoppage - as Valdez marks up & bruises easy.
     
  13. BoxingIQ

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    Porter isn't elite either (Valdez is actually better). Yet. Crawford and Spence are top 5 P4P
     
  14. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    ValPEDs coming off a gift robbery decision where he got his head boxed off. Stevenson win won't mean much.