If Team Pac avoids "slick black" fighters, does Team Floyd avoid "good welters"?

Right because only African Americans are buying the PPV events right?

And you are probably a cornball who hates to see the man make it look so easy, hahaha.

 

How so? Today, most African Americans don't even follow the sport. Black people tend to love Basketball and Football.

I think that will change when they start promoting PBF v. Pac and when the general black population see all the vitriol and hate spewed at this black man, they will get behind him like never before.

 

That would be DLH and Cotto.

Hatton was, is, and will be more hype than substance.

 

You probably hear the "slick black" fighters from black posters on this forum. Fact is, Pacman is the P4P best right now and some can't handle that. Especially Floyd. Pacman would own him by round 8:deal

 

Come on man. Recognition does not pay bills. You even see that these clowns are now stating "money and prestige" as a valid reason to fight. Then it isn't when Mayweather does it?

At the time of the Margo affair Mayweather had already agreed to fight Zab. Zab lost, but he honored the agreement. Who did Zab lose to? Baldomir. Now what sense would it make to NOT fight Baldomir?

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In this video Mayweather is ducking Baldomir to fight Zab and the "money and prestige" are with Baldomir. Then after he schools Baldomir, he is ducking Margarito? Then he is ducking Hatton too. My has the landscape changed! Do any of you remember this?

This is the common thread. These sheep let the boxing media create them a new hope. Mayweather schools him. Then they find and hype a new one.

 

"Prestige" for beating Baldomir? People were sh*tting all over him before and after that fight, and for good reason. The outcome was a foregone conclusion.

And don't come here with that "honoring" an agreement with Zab BS. In the real world, when you lose your tuneup, you lose your shot at a megafight. Zab didn't deserve that fight and Floyd's win there is more hollow than it could have been because of it.

 

Man "Slick Black" is no different than "Rugged Mexican". I think the truth is that deep down you guys have inferiority complexes.

"Slick Black" is just an illustrative term to help you associate boxing style. For whatever reason (I believe cultural) usually only African Americans seem to use the style. RJJ, FMJ, Muhammed Ali, Andre Dirrell, etc... Mike Tyson was Black. He style was not slick. More "Rugged Mexican".

"Rugged Mexican" style seems to be the style loved by the Mexican/Mexican American fan base. DLH and JMM were both a lot more "slick" than that and they never captured the hearts of the Mexican fan base, until the fought FMJ.

We don't have enough Asian presence to say "X Asian" fighters. Manny is boxer puncher who fights excellent stationary or backing up.

For whatever reason, Manny likes to fight guys who will stand flat footed in front of him, trade and constantly come forward. No other way to get around it. For some reason you guys seem to be all riled up because Black is mentioned, but seem fine with Hispanic references?

 

Blue did you see the link I posted? That is not what the streets were saying.

He fought Zab knowing that Zab was the more competitive opponent. Reviewing the fight, was he right? Hell yes. The Zab fight was 10 times more entertaining. Hell he was losing the first 4 rounds.

So should he have just fought Baldomir? He did next. Whipped him too.

 

By using "slick black" it suggest bias. Just like "rugged mexican". Which I have NEVER used. Search my post. Pretty boy Floyd is a duck artist who is his biggest fan. Skilled? Yes. A great champion? No. Pac is the P4P king.

 

well I don't know if he read my posts postulating this same idea in other threads or not, but I'm glad he made the thread, its absolutely true.

the *****s are way out of control on this one

its sad to see somewhat intelligent posters getting sucked into this argument

which incidentally, goes completely out the window since Manny is more than willing to fight fraud.

It is just absurd when we consider that fraud has avoided an entire ERA of welters, meanwhile little Pacquiao is moving up and takes on the welters fraud won't, as fraud forces marquez to face him at 145 and then won't even make weight.

 

Silly to bring race into it boys. Stop generalizing and have a little worldliness and beware the individual. I am neither a ******* nor a hugger. My take is this.... Malignaggi is slick.......Manny didn't fight him. So what? Proves nothing. But I do think there is merit to the criticisms, but it has nothing to do with race. It's a style thing. Styles make fights and they can break fights too it seems. There's been a bunch of threads on the subject in recent days. I just see it as a case of Pac seems to fight certain types of guys..... . But they do represent tremendous challenges to him. I also think the criticisms of Floyd have merit. The top guys in the division all seem to be fighting each other, but Floyd fights none of them. Floyd is a great, great fighter, but he is too protective of his "0" for his own good and it's tarnishing his legacy.

 

I am not saying you did. It is nothing to hear the term "Rugged Mexican" on any boxing telecast.

A duck artist? Who did he duck? You, like most of these *******s, don't see the connection of all the fighters under Arum always fighting each other.

 

Right out of all the WW he took out the WW that got up off of the canvas a few times before Zab. Got up off of the canvas a few times with Zab. Got beat to a pulp by Margarito. And was running from Clottey and got a gift decision?

Get the hell out of here. If Cotto was "The Man" at Welter Weight you don't know boxing.

 

The statement was made by a man who isn't known to be articulate, like most fighters. He was talking about a style not race.

Who are the top guys? Baldomir was the top guy before DLH became available. Who wouldn't jump at fighting DLH? Come on!

 

If you looked at DLH's early career you could say he avoided black fighters, overlooking the fact that in the lighter weights Mexican fighters were dominant. When DLH gets to 140-147 his resume becomes shockfull of black fighters. This is the same with Pac. Now he is at the 140-147 weight and now the black fighters are on his radar. It's not ducking colors or races, it's just fighting the guys in front of you whoever they happen to be.