If The 1910 Johnson had met prime Mcvey, Jeannette , Langford?

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  1. "Marvelous"

    "Marvelous" New Member Full Member

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    Johnson wins a competitive UD against Jeanette who actually had a great jab would keep things interesting and he was well conditioned and exceptionally tough, so it could get interesting in the final few rounds.

    Johnson comfortable UD against Mcvey.

    Langford is a difficult match up to predict if pressed I would choose Langford by TKO(corner retirement) with Johnson winning a rematch by decision.
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    He didnt make athletes, who were his contemporaries laugh it was usually Johnson that did the laughing.

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  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    [quote="Marvelous";9592102]Johnson wins a competitive UD against Jeanette who actually had a great jab would keep things interesting and he was well conditioned and exceptionally tough, so it could get interesting in the final few rounds.[/quote]

    Is that the jab where he leaps in against smaller foes with his chin straight up in the air?

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  4. Duodenum

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    Jeannette is not outboxing the taller and longer armed Johnson. McVey too crude.

    Langford? Jack always had Sam's number. Langford turned 27 in March 1910, and may well have been peaking when he knocked out Fireman Flynn for the movie cameras on St. Patrick's Day in the only scheduled 45 rounder of his career. Johnson-Langford instead of Johnson-Jeffries in Reno on July 4th could indeed have been that prime for prime face-off being sought here, but Sam would have still likely scaled under 170 pounds, and Jack was not a good opponent to give away size to. Between 1905 and 1926, Lil' Artha' was not beaten by any smaller opponent.

    Johnson would be playing for a distance verdict, and Sam would be hard pressed to override him. From long range, Langford would have to deal with that jab, in close, those raking uppercuts. He himself said white men were his meat, black men his voodoo. Jack was the voodoo high priest himself. He was laughing when Jeffries hit him flush. If Jeff couldn't concern him, then I don't think Sam had the necessary fire to do it to that version of Johnson.
     
  5. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree that Johnson would always present a tough match for Langford, but Jack certainly avoided him when he became champion. Johnson did draw the colour line but not without pressure from the blatantly racist society of the time.

    I think Johnson still beats them all, but the fights definitely become much more difficult as the others improve.
     
  6. mcvey

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    Of course we must not forget that Johnson himself improved after his fights with the black trio,and ,that we are matching them, when all of them are at their best.
    Thanks for your input.:good
     
  7. round15

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    Most welcome, and aren't ya proud I didn't Frazierize my response!;)
     
  8. mcvey

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