If the bodybuilder Joshua.....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by chico g, Dec 27, 2020.


  1. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Avoids Fury, and pounds that scrawny Usyk to a pulp. Would that be a better win than Fury's win over Deontay Wilder?
     
  2. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    No, not in HW, but even in old age, Povetkin arguably was
     
  3. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Povetkin does have lot of wins over alot of solid B level contenders. But I'm not sure he could take on old grandpa Ortiz and his trusty walking stick.
     
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  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury's dominant wins over Chisora, Wlad & Wilder are better than a win over a blown up cruiserweight looking for an AJ payday.
     
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  5. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad was 39 years old (whether you accept it or not, timing and speed decreases with age) and Fury ducked the rematch...Wlad couldn't use his embarassing punch and clinch tactics against a bigger guy. Wilder is a basic right hand with athletic and length attributes that make it possible for him to land. Wilder was losing every round of the Ortiz fight (Ortiz who is definitely older than 40), and looked shaken the round before he clocked Ortiz.

    Get your tongue out of his ass you biased weirdo
     
  6. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    39 year old Wlad could have beat the whole of the HW division with one hand behind his back in 2015...excluding Fury and would have took AJ on another 50:50 war.

    You're the biased one.

    Wlad could comeback tomorrow and stop Pulev/Povetkin in under 8 rounds. Probably stop Whyte also.

    Wlad was a great champion for many years because he knew how to beat these smaller plodding heavyweights with a jab and a clinch & could still do it today. He retired after accepting the new gen of superheavys Fury and AJ could manhandle him. Could have took on the AJ rematch and probably had a good % chance of beating him but mentally knew it would be a battle of attrition yet again. AJ's second wind in that fight is what truly scared him off. Wlad doesn't have that in him anymore.
     
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  7. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder is a more proven heavyweight than Usyk. Yes, Wilder took the path of least resistance. Yes, he's one dimensional. But, he did manage to have a stranglehold on the WBC title for a few years. Usyk would need to rack up a few more heavyweight wins before we can say he was a better heavyweight than Wilder.
     
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  8. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Usyk Vs Ortiz would be a good fight
     
  9. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No matter what happens these 2 need to fight to establish the battling boxing Brits pecking order.

    No reason for it not to happen next.
     
  10. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Than how come he didn't come back and beat everyone? And the only fight after Fury was a KO loss?
     
  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Because he wanted to scalp back the belts Fury relieved him of... the only option was against AJ for good money.

    Wlad isn't fighting people for no belts...

    Wilder didn't want to know about him.
     
  12. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nah, Usyk would play with Ortiz and TKO him late on. Ortiz looked gash against Hammer and I doubt he's much of a threat to anyone in the top 10 now.
     
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