If the Hitman had got the decision against Sugar Ray in the 2nd fight

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  1. bill poster

    bill poster Guest

    Hearns is forever tainted by his two big losses. But if he had got the deserved decision against Ray would he be seen in the same light as Ray Leonard and Hagler? I mean he beat Duran in 2. People forget the other elite fighters he defeated and of course being the first 4 weight champ. When he beat Virgil Hill it would have been the right moment to retire - his record was I think just 3 losses going into that fight.

    Shame the draw was given against Ray because it made a big difference to the History books


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  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    that fight doesnt really mean much cause both fighters were past theyre best,but still Hearns shouldve got the decision.
     
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  3. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Nope, getting the nod over Leonard on the "Seniors Tour" wouldn't elevate him into the top 2 of those four guys IMHO.
     
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  4. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he got the win then I think he would be elevated a bit simply because both men were I believe roughly 32 years old. They were no longer in their primes but neither man was that far past it. I dont think it would elevate him past Leonard or Hagler but would put him at least closer to them
     
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  5. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Both men were WAY past their primes when that fight happened.
     
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  6. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not sure that his status has hinged on that decision, really.
     
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  7. SAS2

    SAS2 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    second fight was a draw.
     
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  8. SAS2

    SAS2 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    they were both in early 30's, hardly seniors tour by todays standards anyway.
     
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  9. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    At the time of the fight Hearns had been a top class pro for 10+ years and Leonard had been a part time fighter for the last 7 years, both were fighting at 20 lbs over what they weighed in their /early mid 20's.

    Watch the first fight and then watch the second fight, theres a massive difference.
     
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  10. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    It wouldn't have changed his or Ray's historical standing that much. The first fight meant a lot more due to the "peak" factor. It would help Hearns's standing maybe a slight bit, but not much.

    Mosley-DLH 2 is similar, but to a lesser extent in terms of decline.
     
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