If the Rematch happens, who's putting their money on Kov?

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  1. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Hahahaha i must ave missed the scoring for missing instead of landing scorecard
     
  2. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You thought Kov out landed Ward by over 100 punches. I repeat. Kov threw 140 more punches to out land Ward by a measly 10 punches. Ward landed 34 percent of his punches. Kov landed at 18 or 19%. You know what effective aggression is right. Following a guy while not cutting off the ring and missing shots is not effective aggression. Also hurts you in ring generalship. Add the fact a good portion of Kovalev's punches landed in the first half of the fight. Doesn't help you when you get tired as well. Ward won. The stats clearly show Ward got a come from behind victory and landed at a higher connect percentage. Punchstats don't favor Kov's argument at all.

    Also keep in mind his most effective shot was a jab. Punchstats have Ward outlanding Kov in jabs. I'll tell what I saw Ward do that I didn't see Kov do. Land clear variety of shots. What happened to Kovs right hand pal after round 2. It disappeared. Who regressed and who adapted? Ward adapted. Kov was the more limited fighter in punch selection. Who was the stronger fighter by the end of the fight? Answer Ward. If this was a 15 round fight Kov wouldve been TKO'ed off fatigue alone.

    Kov ineffectively cut off the ring and did just as much clinching if not more than Ward and all it did was make himself more tired. I've utterly out right owned your ass. Deal with it.
     
  3. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Directed to you
     
  4. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    No you are perpetuating a simple typo on my part and using it to obfuscate. I clarified what i meant.. You are refusing to answer everything put to you in a effort to not undermine yourself. Hankering onto semantics is the lowest common denominator.
     
  5. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Cuz youre grasping at straws. I'm responding only to what's relevant. Ward won on scorecards from unpaid judges. Conspiracy theories which are the majority of people's case hold no water. Kov gassed and gave a fight away to a man he hurt and couldn't finish. Bottom line.
     
  6. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Go to bed son.
     
  7. Orca

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    This thread is too much. Do you hardcore Ward fans get a cut of his money or something? It's like you put a 'win' above all else, regardless of how he gets it. Like it makes you a winner or something. All very strange. Before the fight all I cared about was 2 top p4p guys were fighting. I hoped for a good fight. Seems some people think Kov missed his chance at a ko so spent the rest of the fight plodding after the 'Ring General' Ward whilst missing and getting dictated to. Those that believe that really need to watch more closely. Lets hope a rematch settles this. What a waste of time. If Kov had been given the decision, most of these threads wouldn't exist. We would have moved on.
     
  8. Liquid Fire

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    So to sum thus far:

    -I have asked you to provide any official punch stats supporting Kovalev only winning 4 round's? Nothing thus far.

    -'Making a guy miss scores pal'.. Does it? I must have missed the scorecards for punches MISSED. How careless of me..

    -Kovalev out landed Ward in 474/337 total punches thrown. That is what I meant.. Can I clarify that anymore? Did Kovalev outland Ward? Yes or no? Give me just one punch stat report that had Ward out landing him over 8..

    -U have Kovalev winning 4 rounds. Yet compubox has Kovalev landing more punches overall plus a KD & you are also liking posts suggesting it was razor thin none of which supports even closely your 4 round scenario. Compubox has I think 1 round different to my scoring in terms of punches landed. Again much closer to the mark than yours. You have also just admitted Kovalev outlanded him by citing these stats too. Again u walked right into that one..

    -I'm also awaiting the posts in which I said I needed to rescore or research again according to u? That your comprehension skills struggle with this is not my fault..

    -My scorecard has been posted. I posted the punch stats and on balance it favours my scoring. I gave 3 6 & 12 to Kovalev correct. Again compubox has Kovalev out landing in 2 of these rounds. 38 in total as opposed to Ward landing 33.

    -As for the judges you cite, you have it 8 rounds and none of them agree. Hence you are saying you are disagreeing with the judges on certain rounds just like the people you are calling cowards & whiners. Same people who agree with Jones, Tarver, Mosley, Loma, Foremen, Buffer, Roach, Chop chop, Golovkin etc that Ward did not win. Cowards?

    Now post me the judges scorecards and we can play you both of against each other. Thus undermining your reliance on judges & admittance that the judges can get it wrong & in fact fans (you being one) disagree with them! Welcome to the family bro..

    Keep rolling with that typo tho bro... :)
     
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  9. Liquid Fire

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    Don't start **** u can't finish son..
     
  10. Liquid Fire

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    What conspiracy theory? You aren't responding to what's relevant. You quote either yourself or just play semantics. You're ****....
     
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  11. Liquid Fire

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    And the sunshine bus has finally come for TheyDontBoxNoMore7..
     
  12. Liquid Fire

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    Damn you are dense, bro you need some comprehension skills.. You do know I was addressing YOU? Asking YOU to provide the OFFICIAL punch stats SUPPORTING your argument??! Where are they?
     
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    u r a cowardzaghe
     
  14. Liquid Fire

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    How old are you?
     
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    i'm just returning like for like, don't shoot the messenger.