If the Rematch happens, who's putting their money on Kov?

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  1. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I picked Kov on points the first time and he got ripped off. Why would I put money on a second fight when I feel I got the first fight correct.
    Kov landed the harder punches, landed more punches and scored the knockdown. Look at wards face, no not that it was more busted up than Kovalev's we know that, but how surprised he was when he was gifted the decision.

    People who were there said Kovalev won. By a great majority.

    Kovalev won. Deal with it.
    It's not the first head scratching decision given out in Vegas and it won't be the last.
    I'll trust the experts who were there and my own two eyes for what I saw over an internet troll thread.
     
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  2. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have to say that your ability and dedication in bringing up Slappy Joe in every second post is quite impressive.
     
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  3. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Why are they fooling themselves? It's not impossible the rematch will be easier for Ward, especially as many thought he lost the first fight. What if he wins the rematch and the common consensus is he deserved to? Wouldn't that mean it was an easier win? That's not a foolish supposition. It's just an alternate perspective to yours...
     
  4. HerolGee

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    I think its bold to claim a kd wont happen again. Ward was hit repeatedly throught the fight in a bad way. There were more than that one time when he was shaky.

    What I would bank on saying is that ward, if kd-ed, will get straight up and grin again (which is something you really don't see in a Kovalev opponent, never mind someone from as lower division. Wards chin is scary stuff).
     
  5. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Anyone who calls a boxer a coward goes straight into my 'don't take seriously' catagory...
     
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  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    nevertheless a true fact it twas.
     
  7. HerolGee

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    nevertheless a true fact it twas.
     
  8. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Kov landed the hardest punch. That's about it. He was gassed by round 5. Got caught in a wrestling machismo match where his stamina took more of a toll and barely pulled himself together to land some jabs in round 10 where Ward landed just as much and round 12 were Ward landed the harder cleaner shots. Kov's right hand ceased to exist after round 2. He ineffectively cut the ring off and missed a lot of shots to only land 10 more by throwing 140 shots than Ward. Ward outlanded him in jabs according to compubox. Ward effectively landed shots to Kovs body outside of the clinch. Ward was also able to effectively land shots other than the jab like the left hook. What did Kov do that was so effective that earned him the victory. His shots lost sting as the fight wore on. Kov had a harder time getting to his feet in round 11 than Ward did from a perfectly timed **** in round 2.
     
  9. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I understand you are getting sick of the whining, fair enough, but people who believe it was a robbery aren't going to bet on Kovalev the second time (unless it's in Russia) because they are sure that will be a robbery too.

    For what it's worth, I had Kovalev close, robbery is a bit strong a word as some people I respect had it for Ward. However it was a poor decision in my humble opinion.

    P.S. Fat Dan also said it was no robbery btw, despite scoring Kovalev a close winner.
     
  10. KiwiMan

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    I understand you are getting sick of the whining, fair enough, but people who believe it was a robbery aren't going to bet on Kovalev the second time (unless it's in Russia) because they are sure that will be a robbery too.

    For what it's worth, I had Kovalev close, robbery is a bit strong a word as some people I respect had it for Ward. However it was a poor decision in my humble opinion.

    P.S. Fat Dan also said it was no robbery btw, despite scoring Kovalev a close winner.
     
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  11. The Long Count

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    Kovalev won deal with it.
     
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  12. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    A moral victory which is make believe. Ward won, fact.
     
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  13. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The bottom line is this. Judges, Cold War and other conspiracies aside, majority of you are admitting Kov doesn't have the ability to sway judges convincingly and win the rematch. And for damn sure none of you put your money on Kov. Moral support of a moral victory is easy. According to half of the responses in this thread show there's really no need for a rematch as you guys feel Kov will just get robbed anyways. Those of you with that stance like mirko shouldn't talk about this fight anymore.
     
  14. The Long Count

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    Steve Kim
    Dan Rafael
    Robert Byrd (the 3rd man in the ring!)
    Larry Merchant
    Michael Buffer
    Harold Lederman
    Max Kellerman
    Stephen A. Smith
    Roy Jones
    Antonio Tarver
    Oscar de la Hoya
    Vasyl Lomochenko

    10 thousand fans in attendance

    All had Kovalev.
    In a town known for bad decisions.

    Let me see your impressive list of people who picked Ward as the winner. Not a draw or could of gone either way- people who said Ward won. Because everyone above said Kovalev won.
    Let's go let's see it.
    Because I take there word over yours a internet poster with an avatar name and picture.
     
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  15. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Ward never had Kovalev in any danger, Ward received so much damage it is ridiculous to contemplate even giving Ward the last six rounds, Kovalev got at least 3 of the last six rounds. kovalev was still boxing and being effective, not as much as the first half of the fight but still better than Ward, and Ward himself was not any better. Taking in to consideration the clinching, potshots and sporadic counters there is no way Ward won that fight, and I will agree with the boxing experts at ring side, the entire boxing community, the Russophobic mainstream western media that even had that evil Russian winning,fans and fighters that Kovalev won, your opinion means **** to me. Even Afrocentric Youtube boxing channels had Kovalev winning, if you believe Ward displayed some genius in the ring then all the more power to you. Think what you like.
     
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