If their had being no Louis ,Would Schmeling have reached the top again?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So obviously Max can't beat Louis cos in this scenario he doesn't exist,
    But would Schmeling have managed another crack at the title.?
    Or any of the past champs, Sharkey Bear etc in this barren no Joe Louis world ?
     
  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Perhaps. He may have gotten a shot at Braddock and many thought he had what it took to win. I think he was robbed against Sharkey
     
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  3. janitor

    janitor Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes.

    Only the commissions could have stopped him!

    They could have brought out a battered Baer as their last hope!
     
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  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What about Galento?
     
  5. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Schmeling vs Baer 1933. One of the few times Max Baer was really bissed off going into a fight.
     
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  6. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We'd have had Braddock has Champ .Then as u say ,unless he's prevented ,max S gets a shot at him .Schmeling probably win's that .Not sure what happen s then on in ,a lot of politic s involved. At that point does Germany keep the belt or try to ,on ice?
    With out Joe about it s really hard to see just where the title end's up .
     
  7. BCS8

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    I think Schmeling could do it. I think he could beat Baer handily too, if he'd used a different strategy.
     
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  8. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That could have been one option, to go for a rematch with Baer .Max S could have won that ,like u say with different tactics .Wonder how different he'd have been rated now if he'd beaten Braddock and Baer ?
     
  9. BCS8

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    I personally don't rate either terribly highly so I think Schmeling would have been seen as a fair bit better, and Louis fans would be happier into the bargain.
     
  10. mcvey

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    He would beat Braddock, but without the Louis win I don't think he would be in the mix and would gradually fade away.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    I think Schmeling would have reached the top again. Schmeling vs Carrera anyone?
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    I forget the guys name but he fought one super heavy in the year 1930 and won a decision over him
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    Yes, probably.
    He would have returned to America in 1936 to beat champion Braddock, or one of the other big names in an eliminator and then champion Braddock in 1936 or '37.

    His comeback was in full swing before the Louis win, he was regaining his old form, but no one was giving him credit because those previous three fights were in Germany. Even the Germans/Nazis were sceptical of him conquering Louis. He was rated highly for those wins though, just wasn't expected to be in the kind of form necessary to beat Louis, or be the first man to regain the heavyweight title.

    The reason he would do it is because the other top fighters were rapidly fading. Max Baer was the only man who you could bank on at all to beat an "A-game" Schmeling, but Baer lacked the discipline and Schmeling was probably more motivated.
     
  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    I read that the Schmeling/Louis 1 fight was blacked out in Germany because they didn't want it known that a German fighter had lost to a black fighter. Only Hitler and his officials listened to the fight by radio. In the 12th round when Schmeling stopped Louis one of Hitler's officials stated and I quote "I cannot believe it, Schmeling has beaten the negro".
     


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