If there were an ultimate boxing tournament...

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  1. Action

    Action Active Member Full Member

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    ....who would be the ONE boxer who would win irregardless of weight class or era.
    That person would be the P4P champion.
     
  2. KayEpps

    KayEpps Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    P4P...perhaps Sugar Ray Robinson, Pernell Whitaker, or Roy Jones Jr. But there are so many great fighters like Duran, Ali, Louis, Armstrong, Benny Leonard, SR Leonard, Charles, Greb, Moore, Pep, Gans, Hagler, Hearns, etc who you couldn't count out.
     
  4. they_killed_kenny

    they_killed_kenny Underdogs on top :) Full Member

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  5. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I wouldn't doubt Greb could win this, but I haven't seen enough of him on film to give a bold prediction. Just based on his resume and the wins over fighters we do have footage of, I'd say your pick is an excellent choice.
     
  6. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    (1) Do you mean the "older fighters were too primative and unskilled" argument?


    You've probably seen these, but here are some good quotes about his style and ability for anybody who is interested...

    "Greb would swarm over his opponents with his blazing fast hands while throwing punches from all anglesm" Veteran fight manager Dan Morgan said, “He threw so many punches that the breeze from his misses gave opponents pneumonia. He tossed leather from all directions in fusillades, barrages, salvo’s, and volleys. Naturally being so fast and throwing so many punches he was not a knocker-outer. To shoot a real shock punch a fighter must get set, be more or less stationary for a fraction of a second. Greb was never still in the ring, so most of his knockouts were of the TKO variety.”

    "Fighting Greb was like fighting a man with eight arms. “He was never in one spot for more than half a second,” said Gene Tunney

    "Greb threw so many punches, from so many angles and for so many hits that he would have drove today’s “punch stat” counters crazy."

    "Harry had the proven tough chin needed to absorb the heavy punch of much larger men. In around 300 professional fights, which included dozens of bouts against heavyweights, he was stopped only twice, once in his first year of fighting, and once when he broke his forearm throwing a punch at Kid Graves."

    "Harry Greb was the ultimate aggressive swarming style fighter, only Henry Armstrong can compare to him in terms of the volumes of punches he threw and the killing pace that he set. Not even Armstrong can compare to Greb in terms of his speed, maneuverability and durability. Greb’s perpetual motion fighting made him as dominant as any fighter who ever lived and his awesome record is virtually unmatched in the annals of boxing history."
     
  7. kirk

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    I actually think that P4P, if both were the same dimension types... that Mayweather would beat tyson, i think tyson would have a hard time landing his hooks like he likes... and would be outmanovered....

    I still think someone like Raf, Vasquez, Duran, ect, someone like that would be the best... if all were equal... SRL, Hagler, ect.
     
  8. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Really?
     
  9. Orang-Utan Jim

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  10. SteveO

    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    Think of the possibilites:

    Robinson v. Louis
    Robinson v. Ali
    Ali v. Louis
    Tyson v. Ali
    Toney v. a bunch of people at different weights.
    Hearns, Duran, Pep...man you'd have to have 100 tournaments to get everyone to fight everyone.
     
  11. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    If weight didnt matter, i couldnt disagree with that.

    But if weight matters...It has to be a HW regardless. So i'll say Lennox Lewis, or Tyson..

    Pernell is my number 1 though :bbb
     
  12. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ali, Tyson, hagler, Duran, and Hopkins.
     
  13. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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  14. Action

    Action Active Member Full Member

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    Would the ultimate winner be either Tyson or Dempsey?
     
  15. SteveO

    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    I guess a lot of people think Ali would lose to Tyson...