if these 2 turned pro???would they be a target to hagler,leonard etc???

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  1. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    here is the fight between

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48prvGxSwb8

    in the 1978 world championships...savchenko had beaten gomez but in the 1980 games gomez took revenge, i later savchenko beat him again...they fought a few times...

    both were huge punchers and scored lots of ko's savchenko had ko'd everyone up to the final here in the games....


    if they turned pro and had pro coaches....would one or both be a treat to hagler and leonard etc?

     
  2. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    what no wants go outside of usual guys they talk about
     
  3. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hard to tell much at that stage. Even at the professional level, cant imagine them being a match for someone of leonard's class, let alone Marvin Hagler.
     
  4. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Frankly mate I know little about the amatuers from that time and really only a little bit about the amateur scene of the last 15 years or so. Im always reluctant to speculate on how guys like this would have went in the pros, as so many have bombed in the past.
     
  5. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    yes i do agree that many have bombed out in the past, but many have also went all the way to the top...

    also the fact that both men were huge punchers...that is probably a good thing for the pros....(not like a lot of tap tap type of amauters whose style is not good for pros)

    another thing some of the pro's might be used to the ways these guys box....which works in both ways...once they these guys learn to box like pro's...they would still have some moves from their school of boxing that the a lot of pro's have not seen before.....


    and why can't you even imagine them reaching leonard's class...both reached his class in the amauters...so what makes you think that the talent is not there....

    and someone like savchenko or gomez might had more punching more then hagler or leonard...
     
  6. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think that the the ams was a lot different back then, But the fact is that eastern block fighters are contenders and champions now and if they could of turned pro back then boxing history over the last 30 years would have been a lot different.
     
  7. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember saying ti my dad when I was a young kid back in the 70's .Why is it that all tghe top fighters are all black, heavier weights in particular. His answer was "wait and see what happens when the communist fighters start turning pro". Well, we're seeing it now.
     
  8. teeto

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    iteresting stuff
     
  9. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    At first i thought Savchenko looked a bit amateurish (i know that sounds ironic but this is attempted analysis here!), but he settles into the bout and then looks quite decent in the pocket countering with combos. Gomez invests in his right hand from the get go there and it obviously paid dividends. I also noticed his cutting the ring was good, the cuban looked classy there.

    Thanks for posting that by the way Dabox, i admit i was a little dismissive at first but give it a go and it was good. Not sure how well they would have done, because the level we're talking with Leonard Hagler etc is proven and we know where they are. But i think its clear both of these guys would have been comfortable operating as proffessionals, only gets better with experience aswell usually.
     
  10. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Big diff in the ams then and now don't you think?
     
  11. teeto

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    Im not too much up on the ams to be honest. I think these guys in that vid look pretty decent though.
     
  12. teeto

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    That bout right there takes the setting of a pro fight a bit, rather than land the scoring blowlike it is now.
     
  13. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly, that's what i'm getting at. After watching that last Olympics, they're two different sports now.
     
  14. teeto

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    Yeah i thought you meant that. I dont like watching amateur boxing too much now because of how it is. The olympics Khan was in wasnt too bad like, but there were Cubans!
     
  15. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know, it's a shame. I remember watching amateur boxing when it was just like watching the pros and sometimes at a higher level, Hodkinson, john Hyland for example. At the Stadium.