If these were Louis's title defences?

He beats them all and KO's most. Maybe Page and Thomas go the distance but take serious punishment.

 

most ko wins, the rest UD.

 

I would not be surprised if lyle and rahman knocked him out in the first fight

 

Louis could lose any of these matches. Most are big men who can box, others are punchers with more skill than he fought for the most part.

12 men are listed here, I do not think Louis would win more than 9.

 

Definitely and heavyweight boxing at the championship level should not be used in the same sentence.

The best fighters that Louis meet were Marciano, Charles, Walcott, Conn, and Schemling. His record here if you give Walcott the first fight, as it seems he deserved to win it based on those scoring live at the event and the crowd's disapproval of the decision is 4-4. If you were to score these rounds, Joe's on the minus side by a large margin, meaning he was being out boxed by a class of men who today would be cruiser eight or light heavyweights.

On film, or at least for those who watch and like to break down film Louis had problems with good jabbers, or fast handed fighters. He was vulnerable to knockdowns vs men who could hit, thanks to a low guard / stationary type of stance was open defensively for lead shots or counters. To compound problems he had slower feet than most heavyweight champions.

Thankfully for him, he was usually the taller of the skilled opponents he met with a greater reach. That advantage would disappear vs. almost all of the below opponents. And most of these opponents punch hard enough to score a TKO/KO. If Conn or Farr, two relatively light-punching heavyweights could stun Louis, anyone on this list could do the same or more over the course of many rounds.

So I think he loses a few here on points or via TKO, but would have a winning record overall. Pretty much everyone, including Ali would have at least one loss here.

His toughest matches in my opinion would be Norton, Tubbs, Lyle, Thomas and Dokes.

Others like Bruno, Weaver, Rhaman, and Page have a puncher's chance, much greater than likes of Braddock, Galento, or Buddy Baer who floored Louis.

The easiest fight for Louis is probably Berbick, or Williams, though both could have some success until they were tagged.

I did not mention Quarry yet, but with his sturdy chin ( perhaps the best chin on the list ) and counter punching skills could make things interesting for a while, though likely Quarry who boxed when he should have slugged and slugged when he should have boxed would do have bad tactics and lose.

1938 -Frank Bruno ,Trevor Berbick and Carl Williams.
1939-micheal Dokes ,Mike Weaver and Greg Page
1940-Ken Norton, Jerry Quarry and Ron Lyle
1941 -Tony Tubbs ,pinklon Thomas and Hasim Rahman.

 

1940 and 1941 are his toughest years but I think he makes it through. Stopping all involved. Maybe Thomas last the distance

 

12-0 12 KOS 41 total rds. Anyone that thinks lazy fatass Tubbs goes 15 with Joe Louis should A. Give up talking boxing & B. Put a hatchet in his own head. Wake up guys. Ridiculous.

 

So tired of these Mike Tyson threads ...

 

It's difficult to factor in to these discussions, but winning 12 successive fights is a different proposition from winning 12 separate hypothetical match-ups.

I'd favour Louis to win each fight when assessed individually, most by knockout. However, I don't think he goes through that list of challengers unscathed. While no-one is going to go through two dozen defences without an off-night or two, and it was proven that Louis could be hurt, outhustled and mauled. The common knock is that he didn't adjust well during fights, and fighters on the list are generally better (and bigger) than challengers who did give Louis trouble in reality. Berbick was better and bigger than Godoy, and Tubbs better and bigger than Pastor for example. The punchers on that list are of higher quality than Galento or Buddy Baer.

At some point against that lot Louis has an off-night and probably comes unstuck. If he did, he'd almost certainly come back motivated and with a better gameplan, and make a real statement as he often did second time round.

 

The really sad part is the poor stupid *******s who believe the lazy ****s and slovenly Witherspoon with them to be really good fighters beating anyone in history on a good night. Tubbs! Callvin Hill almost took his head off in the second rd. Calvin Hill!.

 

He knocks the all out! Inside a total of 20 rounds max! Like he did Bob Pastor, Tommy Farr, Godoy, SHW Abe Simon and tha Preme!

 

There is a difference in the names listed here and the bum of the month guys. The below group on average is bigger, and more skilled.

A better way to put it is Ring Magazine, who's as big as a Louis fan as any media source did their top 50 heavyweights a few years ago. The Bums of the month did not rate, but Dokes, Norton, Lyle, Weaver, Quarry and Thomas made their top 50.

Note the contrast?

Ring magazine's top 50. 1999.

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Evander Holyfield
4. George Foreman
5. Larry Holmes
6. Rocky Marciano. Louis 0-1
7. Sonny Liston
8. Joe Frazier
9. Jack Johnson
10. Jack Dempsey
11. Ezzard Charles - Louis -0-1
12. James J. Jeffries
13. Jersey Joe Walcott. Louis should be 1-1
14. Mike Tyson
15. Gene Tunney
16. Harry Wills
17. Sam Langford
18. John L. Sullivan
19. Max Schmeling. Louis 1-1
20. Max Baer
21. Floyd Patterson

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23. Riddick Bowe
24. Bob Fitzsimmons
25. Joe Jeannette
26. Jimmy Bivins

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28. Jack Sharkey
29. Archie Moore
30. Sam McVey
31. Cleveland Williams
32. Lennox Lewis
33. Earnie Shavers
34. Jim Corbett
35. Ernie Terrell
36. Michael Spinks
37. Jimmy Young
38. Zora Folley
39. Ingemar Johansson

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41. Tim Witherspoon
42. Jimmy Ellis

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44. Michael Moorer
45. James J. Braddock - Louis 1-0, but Braddock out for 2 years floors him
46. Tommy Farr - Louis 1-0, Farr wins about 6 rounds and stuns Louis.
47. Tommy Burns
48. Tommy Gibbons

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In addition Ring Magazine said the 1930's was the weakest heavyweight decade.

1938 -Frank Bruno ,Trevor Berbick and Carl Williams.
1939-micheal Dokes ,Mike Weaver and Greg Page
1940-Ken Norton, Jerry Quarry and Ron Lyle
1941 -Tony Tubbs ,pinklon Thomas and Hasim Rahman.