If they retired today, where would you rank them as ATG's?

when we talk about joe's resume people would most say past prime eubank who was defeated by collins, lacy, kessler, 43 year old past prime hopkins

 

Read all my post's bro..
Pac is still writting his legacy IMO, while the others on the list are pretty much already set in stone.
Manny is still ahead of the curve in terms of his what if? if he retired now, he has too much still to offer.


But no Q who #1 is...
Oscar is an Olympic Gold medal winner. De La Hoya has defeated over a dozen World Champions and has won 10 world titles in 6 different divisions. :bbb

 

huki probably lost a lot of Money betting on JMM and still Crying!!!:rofl

 

WRONG ANSWER EVERYONE.

He ask's your opinion and then bitches when you dont have Pacman at #1.

****ing *******s.

 

Individual Rankings:

1. Money May
2. DLH
3. Pac
4. Calzaghe
5. B-Hop

All-Time Rankings

1. Money May (best none Heavyweight ever)

... the rest I would rank amoung their respected weight classes --

*Calzaghe - the best super middleweight ever
*Hopkins - Top 10 Middleweight ... 20 defenses of his title was impressive but there are better Middleweights in history than Hopkins ...
*Pacquiao - P4P one of the best fighters under 135 and would match up well with anyone at 126 and under
*DLH - P4P one of the best fighters of his generation, but falls short of ATG status with so much controversay surrounding his opponents, victories, and defeats.

All fighters would rank amoung the best of their generations and all deserve top 100 All-Time consideration ...

Money May is definitely ahead of the rest --

 

:good
Thats the spirit

 

This is how Ring Magazine Headlines the Calzaghe win. "Calzaghe Edges Hopkins, An Ugly Changing of the Guard." Compare that to Pac Fight Headlines against P4Pounders like EM and MAB!!!

Even in the 2 JMM fights, They have it Headlines as a Great but Close fights. Pac win against JMM is like the SRL win against Hagler. It's close and debatable. But Pac did better than SRL as he never ran away and always willing to make a fight. Also Pac Drops JMM, that's a Bonus.

Pac's Draw with JMM is like the Draw in SRL-Hearns 2. Hearns was robbed(SRL admit it) and so was Pac(The judge admit it, it's a fact).

 

You'll be crying soon too, when Pac and Donaire both suffer very humiliating defeats, not robbery decisions.

 

Winning ugly is exactly that, winning

An exciting draw and loss doesn't help, Pac still got his ass beat in those fights in mine and many others opinion.

 

I ask Donaire if he has a fight set. He said non so far. I suggest him to take Mijares right away. He said he's very much willing to fight Mijares. You're wish will come true but my prediction will stand and you will end up Crying again.:hey

 

That's what Pac-JMM2 was. A win for Pac in a GREAT fight. That's winning right???? That's better than an UGLY win against 43 years old.

You're opinion doesn't count. It's what in the History books. Who's writting the BOOk of Boxing??? Is it you??? There it is in every episode of Ring Magazine and Boxing website write up. They all Praises for Pac. The Ring even said it scored it for JMM, but it just opinion of one author. But what does the record book said???

 

why do a lot of people rank hoya #1 among those names? sure he's fought everyone, but he's lost most of his big fights. his best win was probably vargas. his wins over quartey and whitaker were highly debatable as well.

 

he's in the middle of that list imo. it's understandable to have him above pac and calzaghe. tell me why DLH deserves to be ranked above mayweather and hopkins.

 

i have him above hopkins simply because of being the more skilled, and having fought more names than hopkins, the acheivement is also a plus 6 division champ. And vargas being his biggest win?:huh

 

you got posters here putting "*" over pac's close ones against jmm, and calzaghe's win over hopkins. dlh has had those in his career as well.

his best ones are against either vargas, whitaker or quartey.

i had him losing against whitaker, a razor thin win over quartey (though i'm a quartey fan) and dominated vargas.

i'd take the KO over both disputable wins. just my opinion. i'm not a hoya fan, but i appreciate his skills.