If this is true:::pac is a bigger sham than i thought

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IVLG, Dec 10, 2009.


  1. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are you lot this ****ing stupid???

    Why the **** do u think they they changed the law so fighters have to weigh in 24 hrs before fights. To make it safe.

    Freaking "Rehydration Clause" is hilarious! it would be completely illegal to even try to implement such a clause.
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree with you about Cotto.
    Cotto was already having a hard time getting to 147 lbs, so I dont think that he would allow a rehydration stipulation, especially after having the fight take place at a catchweight of 145 lbs.

    In all honesty, Cotto looked fine to me at the weighin. Not gaunt in his facial features in comparison to his previous fight.

    Cotto seemed to be in great shape to me.


    DLH and his weight to fight Pacquiao is a different story alltogether.
    There is alot of stuff DLH has'nt explained as far as his weight strategy and why he chose or if he chose to come in so light.
     
  3. el mosquito

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    Watch the 24/7 episodes again. probably he is so afraid he'd pay a million dollar for every pound he fails to shed. 145-148 is the weight he trained at for the Pacquiao fight. it is the weight where nacho beristain said he looked good and ready to KO pacquiao.

    And don't blame pacquaio if DLH was to move down to 147, remember, Pacquiao was fighting at 130lbs just a few months 7 months prior to this fight at had just moved to 135 lbs 4 months before their december meeting. It would be totally shameful to ask pacquiao to move up as high as 154 isn't it
     
  4. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can already imagine DLH replying, "I have no choice. Pac's camp forced me not to rehydrate too much or else I will be penalized. Who am I to object to their demand? I am just a nobody picked by Pac and I need a big payday. I don't get big paydays that often. (DLH blushing because of embarassment :oops:)".
     
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  6. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oscar knew exactly what he was doing, he wanted the media to see that, when he was victorious he would have been the smaller man beating up the bigger man. but the problem was he lost. and he limited his own rehydration by his own stupidity.

    When Merchant walk over to Oscar after the fight u can hear Oscar saying to one of his team " i did this to myself"
     
  7. Twirdman

    Twirdman Active Member Full Member

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    Well we know DLH was the one who selected the 147 weight class, probably because he realised it would be horribly unfair to try and make Pacman come up to 154. As for why he only weighted 145 during the weigh in I'm still going with being overly cautious and/or a poor nutritionist. As to why he only put 2 pounds on after the weight in that does seem a little odd, but as was pointed out he was weighing in at 145 weeks prior to the fight so he couldn't be expected to put on too much weight. He probably only took a couple pounds off in the sauna or something and then rehydrated him self back up to normal.
     
  8. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Read the post below.

     
  9. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    As for the DLH fight, there was no news whatsoever of any rehydration clause in the contract. the 147 weigh-in clause was big news already. Roach was even generous enough to allow dela hoya to weigh in at a maximum of 150 during the official weigh in as long as he pays one million dollar for every excess pound, you can check that at the scene of boxing. Delahoya not rehydrating to 160lbs or something was due to tha fact that he has been weighing in at 145-149 weeks before the fight you can watch it at the 24/7 episodes
     
  10. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    It would all depend on the wording of the contract.......as long as the fighter is'nt prohibited from gaining weight after an official weighin, it may be able to say a fighter has to fork over money to the other side for each pound over the official weight limit.....

    The Pac-DLH fight was'nt even a championship fight.
    I dont even think there was a sanctioning body who sanctioned it.

    ......and you have to remember, this is boxing we're talking about. The most corrupt and dishonest of all the sports by far.
     
  11. el mosquito

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    I read the article and he is just being a ***** in that interview. His statement is as good as any boxing fan, he is not an insider to any of the contract deal and does not know **** aside from what he heard from rumors and read in the internet.

    "This fight is in 147 and from what i understand, there are no rehydration clauses like they had in some of the other pacquiao fights"

    Wow it sounds so original for a troll to qoute
     
  12. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thats just my point. It good reason to suspect that a rehydration clause may have been in effect is that very case of DLH already being at or under the limit weeks before the fight.


    C'mon, I know you can be logical. Anyone that knows anything about boxing, especially aging fighters, knows that losing weight and coming in light to fight a smaller and clearly faster righter than you are is a disastrous recipe.

    The recipe for DLH was to do what he had been doing throughout his career in the lower weights....(rehydrate down to the contracted weight, and rehydrate in the 24+ hrs to fight time.


    My theory is that its perfectly reasonable to speculate that DLH was light way ahead of time because he knew that he was'nt going to be able to climb over the weight limit to enter the ring, without paying substantial and monstrous penanlties.

    The reaon for being so light way of ahead of time, may have been to get his body accustomed to functioning at that weight.

    ......now just being speculative.....DLH may have been able to funciton in his everyday activities at 147 lbs for the time he was training, but to actually do it for the long haul of a fight against World class opposition is alltogether another story.



    It is just uncomprehensible to me why DLH weighed 145 lbs officially and then only 147 lbs fighttime......

    Not saying it did or did'nt happen, but a rehydration clause between the camps would certainly explain alot imo.
     
  13. el mosquito

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    If you could only be logical, something as big as a rehyrdation clause would not go unnoticed for such a big fight where every twist and turn made by each boxers were documented by the media. DLH trained at that weight for fear of not making weight at the weigh-in and paying tremendous amount of money. Plus, as early as the forbes fight, dlh was already weighing at 150 or 151 lbs. He has been losing weight for a long time already.

    Rehydration clause my ass. that came from the mouth of a ron frazier who was speaking merely as fanboy of Floyd and knows nothing about the contracts signed by pacquiao. you can read the article and he wasn't saying it like he really knows it, he was just being an ordinary guy with an unfounded opinion. Its not like DLH, the biggest draw in boxing wold agree to something like that. he did it on himself and was even proud of it while he talks on 24/7 saying pacquiao and roach would be surprised cause he's already making the weight weeks ahead and doing very good at training.
     
  14. boxbox

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    Since when did you guys believe DLH when it comes to his weight?? He releases information that would make him look good or it stays in the shelves.
     
  15. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hahahah!! this haters will do anything, even concoct their own stories just to downplay someone's achievements. Pac always declare his fight night weight, he hides nothing, he doesnt use illegal substance, he trains hard.

    Now keep making a fool outta yourself and continue with the hating. You will laugh at how you've become desperate just to satisfy your agenda.