If this is true:::pac is a bigger sham than i thought

Skip over my post Pipo......the points that I feel need to be made cant be by generalizing......which is why I add the detail neccesary for it to make sense, and for anyone interested to comprehend.

 

Its ok to disagree, especially on issues like this......
.....but on the highlighted Charlie......Mayweather has been one of the very few fighters who have weighed in for a fight and gained miniimal weight......that was Mayweather in his younger days.....it can be questioned with the shenanigans he pulled for the JMM weighin whether he actually gained significant ammounts of weight afterward, as he refused to be weighed by HBO.
.....Emmanuel Stewards guess that he was a good 8 to 10 lbs heavier than JMM.
.....and its certainly very possible now that Mayweather is in his 30's, that he now has to dehydrate to make 147 lbs, and then gain some of those pounds back in the hours leading to the fight.

.......and I'll add that Hopkins dehydrates himself, always has, but he's doing it to a greater extent now that he's in his 40's and harder to make weight.

I looked it up on youtube and picked a recent Hopkins fight....his Pavlik fight.....

Pavlik officially weighed 169 and climbed the ring at 174.

Hopkins weighed the limit of 170 lbs, and climbed the ring a full 10 lbs above that at 180 lbs.

Its only natural, when you're older, its much harder to come down in weight and mantain it.
.......thats why it was so shocking for most to see the issues DLH had with his weight for the Pacquiao fight.

IF DLH planned that thinking it was to his benefit......its the most nonsensical thing I've ever seen a fighter do.
An old fighter trying to get down and mantain a weight he had'nt been in for almost 10 years, and be there weeks before an the actual fight!atschnut:nut

 

hmm says . . .

this thread is full of poo mixed with gulibilty..

 

oscar ****ed-up. he tried to stay around the vicinity of 147 weeks before the fight trying to fight pac speed with speed. they thought they already knew that they were stronger than pac even at a low weight that's why they gambled on a gameplan based on speed. besides, this fight won't matter even if it was held at 154. pac would still **** oscar up. roach thinks that a 130/135 pac would beat the oscar who fought floyd (the one he coached) because he noticed that oscar has trouble pulling the trigger already and was evident during the later rounds of the floyd fight.

 

Despite your kilometer long discourse, rehydration clauses are illegal because it puts fighters lives in jeopardy.

When a fighter dehydrates, their brain as well dehydrates, simply their brain shrinks as well. Because blood vessels in the brain are closely adhering to the sorrounding bone structure, once the brain shrinks, it becomes stretch, thereby increasing the risk of bleeding.

I studied and finished medicine so I should know.

To mae it simplier., Imagine a gelatine inside a big ball., with bllod vessels comnnecvting both the inside of the wall of the ball going to the gelatine. Imagine shrinking the gelatine, so that the tether becomes stratched.now try to shake the ball and you could easily detach that blood vessel. Compare that with a fully hydrated gelatine wherein there is not much movement of the gelatine.

And it is also the reason why same day weigh-in was eliminated.

IVLG is simply the stupidest imbecile in esb next to Nallege, but they are probably the same person anyway.I already trashed his one kilometer thread on how great Mayweather because he chose his opponenets based on how he is being paid, but he still tries to prove to esb that he is an imbecile. There is no point proving it because we already know.

 

co-sign!

 

I'm not here to discuss why the semantics of rehydration limits is dangerous......

......there's alot of stuff that goes on in boxing thats dangerous.......but as long as money is being made, believe me, the fighters safety is the least of these boxing's higher up's concern.......

A fighter weighing in comfortably at his weight limit and fighting around that same weight, while his opponent dehydrates 15 lbs and then gains that and more by the time he steps in the ring is both dangerous to the dehydrated fighter and the opponent who did it safely.........all you have to do is look at the Gatti-Gamache situation for proof of that.......and yet boxing lets it go on........

You have got to remember, this is boxing we're talking about........I would'nt put anything past the embeciles who run the sport!!!!

 

Bingo.

 

No. The Oscar that Floyd fought would have been a different ball game for Pacquiao, as opposed to the skeleton of De La Hoya that he fought.

 

http://fighthype.com/pages/content6455.html

 

I like how he props himself to be some elite insider. Living in Vegas means you privy to that kind of contract negotiation? LOL. I got 10,000 kids in NYC that they think know hip-hop contract negotiations too. LOL.

Can someone please post his 'resume'.

Rehydration clause. LOL.

Hi I am Mr Nobody training the nobodys of MMA. I like to player hate.

 

Haha! he's worse than Sr. when it comes to accusationsatsch

 

are you saying that that version of oscar would beat pac? roach clearly said that it was the oscar version that fought floyd (the one he coached) was his reference why pac can beat oscar. it was the version that "could not pull the trigger anymore."

 

People tend to ignore things like this. I told everyone when the fight with Oscar was about to happen that Roach himself made comments about Oscars in ring weight, and how he would pull pac out of the fight. And yes there was an agreement as to Oscars weight. If one was to just listen. Before the fight I made a topic about Oscar saying that he was eatting Kangeroo meat and stuff, in that interveiw he said that doing so is making it easy for him to get to 145, now as I said then if there was no agreement then why would Oscar who hadnt been lower then 150 in 7 years or lower then 146 1/2 in over 11 years just come in at 145??? It makes no sense.

Roach and Pac have been working the weight drained angle for awhile, and I bet you money that they will try and pull some kind of weight stuff with Floyd as the get down to time to actaully sign the fight contracts.

 

Roach knew DLH couldnt pull the trigger when he was training him for his fight with FLoyd. DLH was just more active against Floyd because Floyd doesnt move around as much as Pac does.