If this is true:::pac is a bigger sham than i thought

cherokee · Dec 10, 2009

Bad_Intentions said: ↑

Great, more conspiracies :verysad.
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the kid obviously stumbled on this article while looking for clues printed on the One Dollar bill to crack the code and help him find the biggest hidden treasures known to man!

boxsensei · Dec 10, 2009

bladerunner said: ↑

Two *****s arguing with each other.

This is priceless :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
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Im a boxing Fan who supports Mayweather becasue he is the best in the sport right now.

Now u on the other hand are a flaming *******.

IVLG · Dec 10, 2009

Eat a bowl of rice, with a side of Shut the **** up

eze · Dec 10, 2009

link plz

PIPO23 · Dec 10, 2009

Excuse

thesmokingm · Dec 10, 2009

IVLG said: ↑

Eat a bowl of rice, with a side of Shut the **** up
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IVLG

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IVLG · Dec 10, 2009

eze said: ↑

link plz
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Ill Message it 2 u

cherokee · Dec 10, 2009

Rooney said: ↑

Right away:huh

How many pages in are we alreadyatsch

I dont know if this is true, i haven't seen the clauses in the contracts, have u?

This is all hear say, just like pac taking steroids.:thumbsup
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yeah well, i have been hearing rumors about the 'real score' between ellerbie and floydie. i don't know if this is true, i haven't caught them in bed together, have you? this is all hearsay

PS.

i never believe this gayweather thing for one second and that never in a million years i would start a thread base on hate and baseless rumors. I was just trying to make a point!

3rdIslander · Dec 10, 2009

ericsupreme said: ↑

pac whipped their ass point blank.
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSNl0mVTxl8[/ame]

^ 3:15

bladerunner · Dec 10, 2009

boxsensei said: ↑

Im a boxing Fan who supports Mayweather becasue he is the best in the sport right now.
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Thats the definition of a gloryhunter right there.

FrochPascal · Dec 10, 2009

IVLG said: ↑

This past Sunday on GMANews.TV, Manny Pacquiao said he knows exactly what Miguel Cotto is going through trying to get down to weight the week before the fight. Pacquiao went as far as to say that having been in a similar situation himself, the weight reduction is going to play a crucial role in the outcome of the fight.

Manny stated that along with trying to sweat off the weight, Cotto will be reducing his caloric intake to make the 145 catch-weight limit stipulated in the fight contract. And he knows that effort will be very demanding on Miguel.

Outside of having your relatives referee and score your fight, there's no more sure way to compromise a fighter and help alter the outcome of it than beating him on the scale. Bringing a fighter down in weight if it's a struggle affects everything he does in the ring in a bad way.

Pacquiao's failure to make weight resulted in him losing his WBC flyweight title to Medgoen Singsurat when he was knocked out in the third round 10 years ago. He also had a difficult time making the 130-pound limit for his rematch with Juan Manuel Marquez in March of 2008, a fight in which some observers believe the split decision verdict in his favor could have just as easily gone to Marquez.

A little over a week out from the fight Pacquiao says he weighs between 148 and 149. So much for him being the smaller fighter next to Cotto.

The catch-weight of 145 for Pacquiao-Cotto has been a topic of fierce debate since the bout was signed. One side of the argument is that Cotto is too big and should meet Pacquiao somewhere below the welterweight limit of 147 to make it more fair. The opposing side asks why Cotto has to put his WBO welterweight title on the line and not be allowed to weigh the maximum the division allows.

To those who believe Cotto isn't at a slight disadvantage coming in at 145 Manny Pacquiao says you're wrong. And if making 145 isn't a big deal for Cotto why has he never fought below 146 since moving up to welterweight?

A sure sign of a fighter who struggles getting down to weight is the one who usually weighs in right at the division limit or a half to a full pound below it. Jake LaMotta barely made middleweight before and during his reign as middleweight champ. I trained with former light heavyweight champ Dwight Muhammad Qawi - and making 175 was always a struggle for him, evidenced by him always coming in right at the light heavyweight limit or a half a pound under it once he won and defended the title.

Then there's the other side where fighters like Marvin Hagler often made the middleweight limit by 2/3 pounds. And the same applied to Michael Spinks making the light heavyweight limit of 175. Both Hagler and Spinks breezed to make weight and always came in under the division limit.

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Making 145 isn't the issue concerning Cotto; there's no doubt he'll be able to do that. And it wouldn't be a shock, at least not here, if he in fact came in at 144 being that's he's probably been consumed with how much he weighs during his preparation for the fight. The question is will he be his best and the same fighter who fought Mosley, Margarito and Clottey? And no one knows the answer to that.

One thing we do know is Cotto won't be better at 145 or 144.5 for Pacquiao than he was at 146 for the three previous mentioned fights. These two fighters are almost the same size and it wouldn't be the least bit surprising if when they get into the ring Saturday night that Pacquiao looks like the bigger fighter.

Anyone who has ever been around a fighter who's trying to cut weight knows it's not a pretty sight. There's only so much spit, waste and sweat in their body. And there's a good chance that that will compromise Cotto. Which doesn't mean Pacquiao wouldn't have won the fight even if Cotto came in at 146/147, if he does.

However, those two pounds that Cotto has to lose will affect him more than the 147 he could've carried would've harmed Pacquiao. If losing unnatural weight hurt Pacquiao against Singsurat and Marquez, then it's a fair point Cotto may be hurt trying to cut the extra pound to fight him.

Of course it'll be argued that Pacquiao had to cut weight because he was still growing, and that's a legit point. But on the other hand, Cotto has already flowered and is very vulnerable to being a little depleted at 145 at this stage of his career.

Does the catch-weight clause of 145 mean Pacquiao shouldn't receive all due props if he wins? No. Pacquiao supporters will argue it made no difference and he's just the greater fighter. Whereas Cotto's fans will be emphatic that the catch-weight was the main reason Miguel lost if he does. Either way it'll be overstated.

But it's an undeniable truth that Pacquiao will not be confronting the same fighter in Cotto that fought Mosley and Margarito.
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Honeslty couldnt be bothered to read that whole thing but looked down and this caught my eye.

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Danny · Dec 10, 2009

I just don't see how Miguel Cotto could have performaned or lasted as long as he did if he weighed no more than 147lbs on fight?

De La Hoya was basically fcuked from being at 147lbs weeks before the fight, even scaling 141lbs at one stage, which was fcuking madness. LWW guys do not even weigh 141lbs a couple of weeks before a bout, let alone a bout scheduled at 147lbs!

However, if indeed this is the case, you can bet your bottom dollar than Floyd Mayweather JR will NOT agree to such terms. If Pacquiao's team does not like it, then Floyd will not budge & there will be NO FIGHT!

Hopefully, we all get to find out the truth, because now I've heard about the rehydration clause, it does put some doubt in your mind!

FrochPascal · Dec 10, 2009

boxsensei said: ↑

Im a boxing Fan who supports Mayweather becasue he is the best in the sport right now.

Now u on the other hand are a flaming *******.
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. Is this a thread, simply to expose yourself over and over on these topics? What else is it for, i dunno?

GalangK · Dec 10, 2009

Wow nine pages... I expected at least fifteen by now. ESB must be slowing down.

motownsiu · Dec 10, 2009

i heard they wanted cotto and dlh to fight with a blindfold, with two hand tied behind their back and hopping on one foot.

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