If today's HW division is so terrible, then why didn't Rahman win?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by madballster, Oct 2, 2012.


  1. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    everyone dont age the same dummy
     
  2. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    :patsch Are you seriously trying to compare the two??? Raham is shot to **** and Foreman was able to perform at his age...big difference so your shitty comparison is moot!

    Edit: you say that the truth hurt...I can tell because your sorry ass thread that you cant accept this is a pretty shitty era...Deal with it!
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    What a stupid thread. Next.
     
  4. Skittlez

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    What do you want? Stop putting words into people's mouths, people said the 90's had a better top 10, not a better top 100.

    So you refuse to admit the 90's had a better top 10?

    Ok. Let's take out the top 2.. Lewis Holyfield and take out the K2.


    So #3 Povetkin vs #3 Riddick Bowe

    #4 Puluv vs early 90's Tyson

    #5 David Haye vs anybody from that top 10.. Say Prime Tua. Prime Ruddock. Prime Mercer... Anyone


    How do you see those fights going?

    Not to mention #1 Lewis would have cleaned either k2... Top to bottom, 90's definitely had a stronger overall top 10.
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    His thread is as stupid as yours.
     
  6. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh I love how the butthurt ESB classic preachers storm in and can't accept the truth. If the 90s were so great and the 2000s and 2010s are the "worst era ever" then why didn't Rahman and Holyfield at least win a belt or two during the last 12 years, like Foreman did in the 90s?
     
  7. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The truth is that YDKSAB

    (always wanted to say that :D)
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    No I don't.

    All I'm saying is:

    1. The 90s were better than the 2000s/2010s, but not by as much as some ESB folks say.
    2. Contrary to popular opinion, the current HW era is not the 'worst ever', not by a long shot. The 30s, 50s and 80s were much much worse.
     
  9. Skittlez

    Skittlez Guest

    the current HW is not the worst ever who said that?
     
  10. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Some of your peer bring up arguments, you however bring up nothing. Why reply at all, why not just shut up?
     
  11. Skittlez

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    Outside of the top 5-7, it's probably around the same with a slight edge to the 90's. Outside of the top 5-10, this era is much better than the 30,'s 50's, and probably the 80's.

    I see what you mean, but the issue is people will focus on the top 5 a lot more than the top 25...

    When they see the top 5 H2H and abilities wise along with resume is

    K2
    Povetkin
    Adamek
    Haye
    Puluv
    etc.. it's horrible.. But if they look further down, it's not so bad.
     
  12. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    A couple dozen ESB classic forum nutheads, in every other thread.
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Riduculous post. A **** division doesn't mean a washed up HW would dominate it. This type of logic suggests you're either trolling, or just not very intuative about the sport.
     
  14. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I made a point earlier but you didn't respond to it. I'll expand now, some others have made good points too.

    Foreman was a Top 10 ATG, who had a 10 yr break from boxing so while not in his prime, he wasn't shot in the 1990s. Rahman might not make it into the top 100 heavyweights. Foreman was competitive against another ATG in Holyfield, whom Rahman was later beaten by when Holyfield was past prime. Rahman had also been beaten 7 times (KO'd 5 times), couldn't beat a post prime bloated middleweight in Toney, and beat a guy with 16 losses to get his mandatory place for the 'title.'

    I actually think the 90's is a little over-rated at times, you had Lewis and Holyfield who were ATG's and a dangerous Tyson (was best in 80's) but imo the 60's and 70's were better. There is no doubt that the current era is one of the worst, when you have the latest challengers to titles being shot Rahman, Tony Thomson and Manuel Charr, it's not a good sign.
     
  15. Elliot

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    Rahman is in the top 10 shot rankings, Foreman wasn't and was a much better boxer.