Yet if you remove his name from Evander Holyfield's resume, Evander wouldnt make the top 15 ATG HW list. Lennox views the Tyson win as his crowning achievement. You know its funny its always the sportswriters and bitter fans who undermine Tyson. But when Mike is in a room with fellow fighters from the past and present- they all respect him. Holyfield, Bruno, Lewis, Klistchko (both), Peter, Ibeabuchi, Tua, Spinks, Holmes (reluctantly), Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Trinidad, Duran, Hearns, Chavez, De la Hoya, Hopkins, Judah, Toney, Byrd- all these fighters have publicly conveyed thier level of respect for Mike. None of them would call him a mental midget like some of these posters here and frankly they are accomplished fighters- they know how it like and they respect him alot more than some keyboard warriors. You know for a midget with limits and liabities he sort of went the extra mile.
I disagree. I totally disagree , and i would even say that the 80's were under **** in terms of talent. And concidering that a prime Tyson used to struggle against total bums , not to mention , the fact that he also was defeated by a bum (buster douglas , an absolutely overrated trash of a fighter)... I sincerely do not see how Tyson would have it "easy".
A prime Tyson would blow all of today's guys away. Vlad might give Tyson a little trouble before taking the ten count within five rounds.
name the ''struggles'' against bums and Douglas was a legit ranked hw at the time of the Tyson fight so no he was not a bum.
A guy who wins his first title at 20 is the first and LAST man to unify all the relevant titles of his era had a fair number of title fights damn near cleaned out every legit hw of the 80s during his title run is'nt top 10 ?.
Let's be clear, Wlad is the only guy approaching a 'good' chance. Peter would maybe make for a good fight, and Povetkin might have more then we anticipate, but I think its fair to assume Tyson would cruise to the top right now before his almost certain implosion.
Struggle may be a strong word , but going to a decision against bums in his prime , that's what he did. "prime" or not , Tyson was certainly no exception. And Buster Douglas was an overrated bum. 1986 Tyson vs James Tillis... 1986 Tyson vs Mitch Green 1986 Tyson vs Jose Ribalta 1987 Tyson vs James smith 1987 Tyson vs Tny Tucker 1987 Tyson vs Tyller Biggs Based on his performance against these fighters...I don't see how it would be "easier". You people are absolutely deluded and full of ****. Pretty much the equivalent of creationists who have lost touch with reality. Tyson was a human being. Not a demi-god. He had his weaknesses , just like everyone else but his fans tend to paint this guy as some sort of invincible monster and are constantly giving excuses after excuses to justify his losses. Tyson was an impressive athlete who was dominting an extremely shitty era. Then again , I'd argue that most eras are **** by default. I find those of you who are claiming that certain eras were better then "X era" are either hypocrites or irreversibly deluded. Make no mistake. ALL eras had their ups and downs. ALL of them. and the guys i've mentioned (tillis , green etc..) Aren't anything special...not just in the 80's , or 90's or today...But by any standards. And yet , people are still concidering this era as somehow "different". In terms of talent ?...Same as today. It had ups and downs. But it wasn't superior
if tyson of the late 80s and early 90s..........would knock out valuev no prob......vitali...no prob.....wlad no prob.......peter no prob NO PROB MIKE TYSON UNDISPUTED HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP/////:smoke:smoke:smoke
Wlad is top twenty and a prime Tyson is top ten easy it is the latter part of his career that pulls his ranking down, anyway agreed Tyson still wins.
I gonna take a risk here and say that Wladimir seems a bit to slow for Tyson, I think Tyson would take him out within 4 rounds. Valuev is a BIG man and a very slow man. It would be hard for Tyson to miss a shot against a target of that size. I´m sorry but I have to say that in my opinion the heavyweight division of today is the worst ever.( Don´t know how it was during the Primo Carnera era) All the best The Predator