If Usyk Beat AJ Again And Then Beats Fury Is He The Greatest Boxer Of All Time?

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  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Member Full Member

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    If he beats them both and becomes undisputed cruiser and heavy champion is he in the goat conversation?
     
  2. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It would be a hugely significant accomplishment.
     
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  3. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Would be a tremendous thing to achieve. Would put him WELL above anyone fighting today.
     
  4. MadProf

    MadProf New Member Full Member

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    No, he won't be in the conversation. That is a very high bar to overcome without defeating HOF heavyweights. Don't mistake your high school valedictorian for Einstein.
     
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  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury and Joshua will be hall of fame. Brieidis, Huck and Gassiev at cruiser.

    If he accomplishes this, he will indeed be in the Uber-elite. Probably the greatest of all time will always be Robinson, but he will be there will the man, Henry Armstrong, Ali, Greb, etc.
     
  6. drenlou

    drenlou Most people DKSAB! I got your Gordo @JOKER Full Member

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  7. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL

    Tell me you started watching boxing two years ago, without telling me that you started watching two years ago.
     
  8. MadProf

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    "Fury and Joshua will be hall of fame"

    Even fat Andy KOed this clown and Fury is the one-eyed man in the land of the blind.
     
  9. OldSchoolBoxing

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    If he beats Whyte, Ruiz, Parker, Hrgovic, Joyce (HW), Dubois, Okolie (CW) as well, yes, in my opinion he will be the greatest boxer of all time.
     
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  10. senpai

    senpai Active Member Full Member

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    It's funny how people have different standards when it comes to eastern europeans

    Those casuals are waiting for someone to take one lose to say that he is trash, just that would tell you that they don't love boxing, they are just pushing narratives to make certain boxers look better.
     
  11. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Bergeron Avatar Club Full Member

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    No, but it would be an incredible achievement that only a small number of fighters in history could approach.

    The problem is that there have been some truly amazing fighters over the last hundred and twenty years. This isn't a knock on Usyk. It's a testament to just how deep the historical talent pool is.
     
  12. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You missed out Babic , hughie fury, Otto wallin , makkkaaabbbuu at CW , Canelo at CW and
     
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  13. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Member Full Member

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    I wasn't caring about them. Are they really that good?
    Canelo won't fight in CW in my opinion.
     
  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We don't base entire careers on one fight. Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Joe Walcott, Sonny Liston, Lennox Lewis, Wlad Klitschko all have dodgy early losses.
     
  15. MadProf

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    The model does not belong in the same conversation with most boxing heavyweight greats that you have listed. The big stiff looks the part and but is the modern-day Primo Carnera.