If Usyk Beat AJ Again And Then Beats Fury Is He The Greatest Boxer Of All Time?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Joeywill, Nov 24, 2021.

  1. Charlie Stewart

    Charlie Stewart Most Merciful Full Member

    Feb 5, 2019
    Too many greats. It would certainly earn him a spot in the conversation but that’s it. Definitely would be the GOAT cruiserweight though, he already arguably is.
    Bingo. Sucks how much nationality plays into boxing.
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Wipe away those tears ladies, even if Usyk were to lose all his fights from here on or decided to hang up his gloves today he would still be the GOAT. Deal with it or get dealt with. :deal:
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free The Guys! F 12 & Goofies Stay Dangerous! Full Member

    Jun 23, 2005
    No but it would be a great accomplishment and a true ATG career.
  4. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

    Nov 18, 2021
    Usyk would be a great champion in any era before the superheavies.
    He would be a dominant champion during the so-called "golden era" of heavyweights, the 70s too.

    HW boxing before 1986 is just CW boxing.
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  5. Joeywill

    Joeywill Active Member Full Member

    Aug 2, 2021
    Those are HOF heavyweights Fury and Joshua
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum: Reject The New Normal Staff Member

    Nov 23, 2013
    Wilder and Wallin were on the verge of stopping him. Usyk is far better on every level than either of those two, especially when it comes to accuracy, and finding ways to land the shots he needs to land. Chisora, McDermott, Pajkic, Cunningham all found a way to land the shots they needed to land. And they're literally trash skill wise compared to Usyk. You're basing all of this hype on the fact that Tyson beat Wilder. He schooled the worst boxer in this sport of boxing. Usyk is P4P perhaps the most skilled man in the sport. Please try to let that sink in a little.
  7. The Townsend

    The Townsend Zeus. Full Member

    Mar 21, 2019
    No because none of them are ATG. We literally have no current potential ATG. Its not Usyk's fault, he just wasn't fighting In the right era.

    But still, clearing house would be a great achievement.
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum: Reject The New Normal Staff Member

    Nov 23, 2013
    Just as confident as I was when I predicted Usyk would beat AJ 6 or 7 years out.

    Like I said, I'm confident.... even more so the second time around. If AJ oes al out, he gasses and getting KO'd. If he doesn't he's schooled once again.
  9. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

    May 29, 2007
    The question was what if? I know it will require using your imagination as to an eventuality you don't foresee.
  10. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Икрашевић Full Member

    Nov 3, 2021
    If Usyk Beat AJ Again And Then Beats Fury, and then retire undefeted; yes!
    First and only CW and HW undisputed, undefeted champion.
  11. Joeywill

    Joeywill Active Member Full Member

    Aug 2, 2021
    So if Holyfield retired after beating Buster Douglas hed be the best ever? Cause he was Undisputed at Cruiser and Heavyweight
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  12. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

    Apr 26, 2010
    Well yeah, because it is an insult, what would you expect them to think?
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  13. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

    Sep 1, 2019
    How’s it an insult ?
  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jul 4, 2014
    Joshua, Breidis, and Gassiev are all potential ATG.

    Joshua is a two-time united champ at 32. When Usyk and Fury retire, he will certainly pick up a third belt. There would be no precedent for not calling him an ATG.

    Breidis just has an excellent record for the one division, with the tough loss being to Usyk. He is still champ, and if he unifies with Okolie and defends against Opetia, he could very well be remembered as the best cruiser to never move up (outside of Charr).

    Gassiev is a 28-year old united cruiser champ. He has done the least work, but given his age, power, and style, he will almost certainly have some heavyweight success. If he picks up a title or two...I will leave it to your imagination.
  15. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 9, 2020
    Why is Dubois even in the discussion? He didn't have a good amateur career and all he has done is beat up journeymen, why not throw Lovejoy in there while you're at it?
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