If Usyk Beat AJ Again And Then Beats Fury Is He The Greatest Boxer Of All Time?

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  1. Charlie Stewart

    Charlie Stewart Most Merciful Full Member

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    Too many greats. It would certainly earn him a spot in the conversation but that’s it. Definitely would be the GOAT cruiserweight though, he already arguably is.
    Bingo. Sucks how much nationality plays into boxing.
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Wipe away those tears ladies, even if Usyk were to lose all his fights from here on or decided to hang up his gloves today he would still be the GOAT. Deal with it or get dealt with. :deal:
     
    Serge, Nov 25, 2021
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    No but it would be a great accomplishment and a true ATG career.
     
    Pimp C, Nov 25, 2021
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  4. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk would be a great champion in any era before the superheavies.
    He would be a dominant champion during the so-called "golden era" of heavyweights, the 70s too.

    HW boxing before 1986 is just CW boxing.
     
    CleneloAnavarez, Nov 25, 2021
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  5. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Those are HOF heavyweights Fury and Joshua
     
    Joeywill, Nov 25, 2021
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  6. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    Wilder and Wallin were on the verge of stopping him. Usyk is far better on every level than either of those two, especially when it comes to accuracy, and finding ways to land the shots he needs to land. Chisora, McDermott, Pajkic, Cunningham all found a way to land the shots they needed to land. And they're literally trash skill wise compared to Usyk. You're basing all of this hype on the fact that Tyson beat Wilder. He schooled the worst boxer in this sport of boxing. Usyk is P4P perhaps the most skilled man in the sport. Please try to let that sink in a little.
     
    CST80, Nov 26, 2021
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  7. The Townsend

    The Townsend Zeus. Full Member

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    No because none of them are ATG. We literally have no current potential ATG. Its not Usyk's fault, he just wasn't fighting In the right era.

    But still, clearing house would be a great achievement.
     
    The Townsend, Nov 26, 2021
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  8. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    Just as confident as I was when I predicted Usyk would beat AJ 6 or 7 years out.

    Like I said, I'm confident.... even more so the second time around. If AJ oes al out, he gasses and getting KO'd. If he doesn't he's schooled once again.
     
    CST80, Nov 26, 2021
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  9. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    The question was what if? I know it will require using your imagination as to an eventuality you don't foresee.
     
    Olu G. Rotimi, Nov 26, 2021
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  10. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic For the honorable cross and the golden freedom Full Member

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    If Usyk Beat AJ Again And Then Beats Fury, and then retire undefeted; yes!
    First and only CW and HW undisputed, undefeted champion.
     
    ikrasevic, Nov 26, 2021
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  11. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So if Holyfield retired after beating Buster Douglas hed be the best ever? Cause he was Undisputed at Cruiser and Heavyweight
     
    Joeywill, Nov 26, 2021
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  12. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Well yeah, because it is an insult, what would you expect them to think?
     
    Reppin501, Nov 26, 2021
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  13. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    How’s it an insult ?
     
    Somali Sanil, Nov 26, 2021
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  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joshua, Breidis, and Gassiev are all potential ATG.

    Joshua is a two-time united champ at 32. When Usyk and Fury retire, he will certainly pick up a third belt. There would be no precedent for not calling him an ATG.

    Breidis just has an excellent record for the one division, with the tough loss being to Usyk. He is still champ, and if he unifies with Okolie and defends against Opetia, he could very well be remembered as the best cruiser to never move up (outside of Charr).

    Gassiev is a 28-year old united cruiser champ. He has done the least work, but given his age, power, and style, he will almost certainly have some heavyweight success. If he picks up a title or two...I will leave it to your imagination.
     
    catchwtboxing, Nov 26, 2021
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  15. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why is Dubois even in the discussion? He didn't have a good amateur career and all he has done is beat up journeymen, why not throw Lovejoy in there while you're at it?
     
    JunlongXiFan, Nov 26, 2021
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