If Usyk beats Dubois, Hrgovic and Zhang, is he a HW ATG?

Yes absolutely.

But to seal the deal he really needs that victory over Fury.

 

With Fury and Wilder both missing from his CV no chance is Usyk an ATG heavyweight, let alone GOAT.

 

No he doesnt, he just need few more contenders.

 

Bot Fury nor Wilder will ever enter ATGs, what are you talking about, who did they defeat - 45 yo Klitchko 10 years ago and fake money champ-----Usyk needs few defenses and he enters ATGs, he already conquered one division and decisivly destroyed Joshua.

 

Not really. Right now there's debate as to whether or not Usyk is even a champion. Half of boxing day Fury retired and Usyk Vs Joshua was for the number 1 spot. The other half say Fury was messing about, kept his belt and retained his status as HW champion of the world.

There's even a small minority who think Fury has been a champion for 7 years and 9 defences and is the shot caller of the division and Usyk should just take what he's offered to make the fight.

 

Did Usyk beat any top HW in his Prime ?

 

Lol, diehard fan I see. Even a champ? he beat a champ 2 times in a row - he a champ. Fury didnt hold majority of belts to be called number 1 nor did he defeat anyone to be called number 1. 45 yo Klitchko and dumbass Wilder who also had no opposition count as nothing.

Usyk vs Joshua was for 3 belts, not furys WBC. For Fury to be considered as a champ - he should have fought Usyk or at least AJ, he ducked both to fight Chisora, Whyte and Naganu. Nuff said.

Fury has very bad CV, and most of the world noticed that after Usyk duck, it is the biggest duck in the history of boxing. Many many people all aroun the world are now thinking he is a fake chamop - I agree, World is not Great Britan fool.

 

AJ 2 times, and made Fury duck. He did enough, not his fault nobody wants to fight for the belt, except Dubois and Hrgovic.

 

No.

Joshua was already beat more decisively by Fat Andy, and no one views Joshua as an ATG (unless you're a psycho).

Everyone agrees Dubois is levels below and does nothing for his resume.

Virtually everyone agrees that Hrgovic has looked like trash recently.

The Zhang-Joyce winner would be his best win by far, but that alone doesn't make you an ATG. HOF sure, absolutely not ATG.

He needs Fury to be an ATG. Or at least Wilder.

Makes me laugh that the very same people who claim that Fury isn't an ATG because he "only" beat Klitschko and Wilder, argue that Usyk is already an ATG because he beat an average Joshua that most people with a boxing brain expected him to beat anyway.

 

I really fail to see how beating Dubois, Hrgovic and Zhang/Joyce would make him an ATG?

Dubois hasn't proven himself better than a Chisora level fighter. Hrgovic has a questionable win over Zhang and wasn't exactly impressive vs Dempsey Kean. And then 70 year old Zhang?

Decent fighters but in reality AJ would still probably be his best win at HW, which is decent, but definitely not "ATG" quality status gained from that.

I'd say if he's beating the likes of Fury then maybe. Dubois, Zhang nad Hrgovic would be decent wins that would make his resume better, but he needs another signature win.

AJ was a signature win because he beat him comfortably. If he beats Fury then I'd say Fury and AJ are a better couple of wins than either of the Klit brothers had.

 

Do you see Usyk doing the other two fights (as the one with Dubois is here) in the next 4 years?

No, those guys aren't the top of the top, so he won't be any near ATG, but with a very good resume for his short heavyweight career. He's a thin, if any, ATG as a cruiser.

 

No, needs Fury but Fury is ducking. That's why Fury isn't an ATGHW