If Usyk had gone straight to heavyweight as a pro, AJ and Fury are never champions.

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  1. Usyknumber1

    Usyknumber1 New Member banned Full Member

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    It's a scary thought.

    When Fury fought Wlad, Usyk was in sparring with Wlad and he absoloutley took Wlad apart.

    Now I agree in Wlads prime that would have been a good fight but at that stage Usyk dominates him, sparring or real fight.

    I understand Usyk wanted to be a 2 weight division champion but he could have gone straight to heavyweight and reigned for 10 years if he choose.

    Fury is a paper champion, he and AJ only ever had belts because Usyk was busy clearing out cruiserweight.
     
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  2. James Hudson

    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

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    Here we go.......
     
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  3. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Wlad experienced some trouble sparring Usyk in his Austrian camp was the word at the time. No more than that.
     
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  4. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    Troll game here is strong!

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  5. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why did Usyk spend 3 years fighting journeymen before taking on Glowacki (who was also no match and lost 9-3 in Poland) in late 2016? He'd already schooled Joyce, Majidov, Nistor etc. in the WSB 5 rounders and "bossed" Wlad in sparring according to Johnny Nelson prior to the Fury fight in 2015.
     
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  6. Gazhearsum

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    Shoulda woulda coulda
     
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  7. James Hudson

    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

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    But didnt
     
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  8. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk could possibly beat most of the top 10 on his day but any banger in the top 30 could beat him. He just lost to Dubois. Went life and death with Chisora. I fully expect him to lose to Hrgovic.
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Another insightful, well-reasoned, high quality thread.
     
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  10. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury beats all of the men Usyk beat with his eyes closed

    Usyk gets chinned by Wilder but he could dance around big stiff Wlad.
     
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  11. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not so sure he beats old Wlad, doesn't really have the style to trouble him imo. Sadly we will likely never know about Fury.
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Never really thought about this but I firmly believe he could've done a Loma and become world champion, even up sat HW, on is pro debut. I know Loma did it in 3 fights but it should be 2 and he had to take that first fight in order to earn a top 10 ranking to secure a title shot. Of course he could of.
     
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  13. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He could but didn't because he can't. He couldn't take Dubios punch to the gut. No way he takes Dr Steel Hammer punch to the jaw. Vlad is levels better than Usyk.
     
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  14. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably politics. He wasn't the name to get anyone to step straight in with him.
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Can we just take a moment to stroll back in time to marvel at the much younger prospect Usyk during his first 9 fights when he was a KO sensation? He looks much faster, smoother and more fluid, better accuracy, more zip and sting on his shots, and he's not wearing those stupid big white gloves either.

    Check of his scything hooks and uppercuts and super sharp counter punching to head and body. He was the best CW in the world even back when he was 0-0-0 and he definitely could've won a world title in his pro debut. For me, that version of him is even better than one we've seen in his world title fights

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