If Ward/Froch Fight in Cali or Nottingham?

ward beats him anywhere

 

The Dirrell/Abraham result should be considered controversial. Hitting a fighter when he is down is not an automatic disqualification.

Irrelevant. You can't base anything off the assumption that Ward will bring no fans. They are assumptions.

Forbes did a list on the most patriotic countries and America is factually the first.

You not knowing something doesn't make it "made up".

No it's not. America is factually more patriotic than Britain, so assuming Ward fights away from his home town, he should have more fans than Froch does because of the difference in national bias.

By the way, you do realize that Britain is the country, right? And many Scottish or Welsh people would love to see Froch beaten by an American?

If you pay now, yes, it's cheap but it depends on when you pay.The cheapest ticket I could find on Expedia from LA to Atlantic City was £268 which is £167, which is around what you'd pay for a train ticket at certain times.

You see it as petty, fighters see it as important.

 

i've never claimed every single point is going to make a huge difference, but when you add them all up, i just don't see why you can't admit that fighting in a foreign country is cleary a disadvatage. its really not that hard a concept to grasp!!

 

sorry, also.... love the way you put stress in inverted comma's as if its a made up word. stress of any kind increases sympathetic nervous activation which, in simple terms, burns energy. that's why its called nervous energy. more energy expenditure means a worse performance

a fighter in foreign country is almost certain to experience some kind of stress. i.e. they are at a disadvatage.

 

You can't be serious. Abraham fouled Dirrell and Dirrell couldn't continue. That's an automatic DQ according to the rules.

By that logic we can't assume Froch won't bring more fans and we can't assume the judges will be biased.

They're factually first in a subjective list done by an American magazine. Regardless, that has **** to do with fans traveling to see Ward fight.

I'm not sure you understand what a fact is. What country is more patriotic is a subjective opinion. One country being more patriotic than another can never be factual.

So now your argument is that Ward will get more support in Britain?

This is why you need to understand the geograhpy here. LA is about a 6 hour drive from Oakland. Anyone coming from Oakland isn't going to drive down to LA first. The cheapest flight from Oakland to Phily is around $560. It's well over $600 once you include tax and fees. Also, if you're flying from Oakland to the East coast, you're going to need to stay in a hotel. One nights stay in a hotel in A.C during the weekend can run you at least a couple of hundred dollars. Taking a train from Nottingham to London is nowhere near as exepnsive as flying from Oakland to Philly. To say otherwise is plain ignorant.

C'mon man, just admit you're reaching here.

 

So it's a disadvantage for Pacquiao to fight in America like he's been doing for pretty much all of his recent fights? It's easy for you to say it's clearly a disadvantage, it's much more difficult for you to prove it. There definitely can be disadvantages when you fght in a different country. However, I don't believe many of these disadvantages would apply in this situation. The ones that would apply are insignifficant.

 

yes, it is a disadvatage for him to be fighting in america. but he's so good it doesnt make that much difference. you certainly can't say that about carl froch...

your right it is difficult to prove, but its common sense, and i feel i have made enough points to explain the phenomenon....

and for disadvatages that apply to be insignificant? surely thats an oxymoron for a fighter in a close fight... even if it is small its still a disadvatage, and it will make a difference to the fighter.

 

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Where it's fought won't make a difference.

 

Pacquiao is at such a disadvantage that voluntarily keeps fighting here. :roll:

It's not commmon sense and you have not properly explained the phenomenon in this situation. Here are the disadvantages of fighting in a foreign country in boxing;

Having to fly and stay in a Hotel(Ward also has to fly and stay in a hotel)

Language barriers(Froch is going to an English speaking country)

Hostile crowds(Ward won't bring many fans)

impartial judges(the judges will international judges and their won't be a pro Ward crowd to sway them).

Yeah right, Froch supposedly trying to find food he likes is going to possibly determine the outcome of this fight. :nono

 

Glass Jaw Ward is a disgrace to the sport.

 

Ward has good reason to not fight Froch in Nottingham, he might get robbed like Dirrell did who cleanly beat Froch.

 

the fight was contracted (the final) to be in America. that cannot be changed. so all taht nottingham, england, or even montreal stuff is irrelevant. atlantic city is a great choice though. fair venue and equal chance for either fighter to win fair or square.

 

Fighting in the US is an advantage to Ward, it may be slight but it is an advantage. Being that it is the final and it is not on the west coast it is a good compromise if the ref and the judges aren't American.

 

My garden shed is bigger than Broadwalk hall! Couldn't it be held at Madison Square Garden

 

only in america is it not an advantage to fight at home according to this thread