if ward struggled against bika what about froch?

If ward doesnt try to use his greater speed and box from the outside then it will be a tough fight, i dont see anyone having an easy brawl with froch. The location of the fight may well decide the winner, froch at home can win, froch away cant imo

 

On the first part, and given your opinion... were you not tempted to post in this thread?

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8690602

Can he box Froch from outside, and exclusively from outside? Yes. "Will he?" is an entirely different question, since the Ward who fought Bika was miles behind the Ward who fought Kessler in terms of ring intelligence (i.e. not the most effective gameplan).

 

Froch is going to get outboxed ward just started fighting on the inside

 

By his own admission, its his transition from boxer to fighter.

 

On the other hand, do you think Froch will throw his jab off of the backfoot like he did against Abraham or throw it wildly at times like he did against Taylor?

I think the semis will tell us if Ward can box exclusively from the outside (re: anti-AA blueprint), and if Froch can resist engaging in a brawl when challenged from inside (re: Johnson's game, pressure).

 

did you not watch the pascal vs. froch fight?

 

Did you not know Johnson and Pascal have very different styles?

Pascal doesn't apply pressure, he leaps in with power shots when he deems safe to do so. Johnson walks you down to the right distance, keeps you there (as opposed to Pascal) and connects with overhand rights.

Froch will experience constant pressure from Johnson just as he did vs AA, except that Johnson plans on countering the jab. Johnson also uses head movement, AA doesn't. We'll see what happens, I think Johnson forces Froch to a brawl with Froch coming out on top in a close UD.

 

Well i think Ward has what it takes to beat Froch but it certainly won't be easy and he'll need to fight a smarter fight than he did against bika. I thought that in his fight with Bika he got a little caught up in wanting to prove how strong and tough he is and how he can fight on the inside with a wild bull like that.

Against Froch he really needs to be on his P's and Q's, use his speed and footwork and box, and if he really wants to fight on the inside so much, mix it in occasionally. But mainly, he just needs to box and i think he'll be good.

Wether he can go back to that style after the way he's fought recently is a different matter, but i think Ward is a smart enough guy to make those adjustments. I just hope he hasn't fallen in love with the idea of being a 'fighter' to much.

Good thing he'll be able to practice a bit on Abraham first i guess lol.

 

i think now that froch has really worked on his movement,defense and balance,that he can go on and beat anyone in the divsion.

he can now also stick strictly to a gameplan,and not get messy.

ward has gone backwards since beating kessler.

Hes had it pretty easy too with green,underexperienced,and even struggled where he should have totally outboxed bika.

Froch just scraped by dirrell,but learnt from this,on what its like to fight such a good mover and fast puncher,so he wont be suprised by ward trying to do same. also direll learn how to box,but engage too afterwards.

Froch also has fought very skilled taylor and kessler who had mix of speed,some good movement/ring generalship but could also fight well.

i see froch being much more improved and being able to beat ward in anyway,stopping ward hitting and moving,being able to close down and jab,hook and uppercut when in close,ward being not as fast as dirrell.

i can see froch destroying ward if ward even thinks about fighting on the inside. can keep ward at distance and still out land him and hurt him.

i dont see ward having the power to stop froch getting at him.

i just think frochs long poweful jabs,his straight combinations,and improved footwork ,defence and game plan focus means he can really go on and win this thing.and his iron chin and determination helps too.

the johnson fight is much tougher than ward,thats the acid test.

johnson will have seen how bhop made pascal look old and himself look young,by being the agressor,being the one who lands first,who controls the pace,is smarter boxer.

johnson will try do this to froch,and froch needs to do this to johnson,to set the fast pace,hurt him to the body constantly,stop him wanting to fight on the inside with powerful stiff jabs and right hands.

froch needs to make johnson tired,make him respect the power,make him wary of being on the inside too much,make him doubt his own power and feel inferior on the inside.

uppercut johnson when he gets in close.

 

It will be a very tough fight for Ward & a very frustrating one for Froch. Ward should win but I'm hoping Froch does.

 

Bro'....froch got his ass boxed off by dirrel ,froch is lucky he had that ref on his pockets....froch looked frustrated and only rushed in clinching getting ugly LIKE WARD DOES....knowing the ref wouldnt do ir say anything i mean **** he let them hug for 30-40 sec at a time in froches favor'....AND KESSLER is the equivalent of jeff lacy'.....staight ****ing bum..And taylor after pavlik WAS AND STILL IS MENTALLY BROKE ...if dirrel didnt hand over the blue prints on how to beat AA he wouldnt have had the balls to fight him.....froch is wack'......Hope johnson schools that *****....

 

So if Ward -Froch ends up being a close fight is, Froch better than u thought or Ward worse?