If Ward won the Olympic Gold Medal at 175, why does he refuse to fight Kovalev?

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I haven't heard anything more, but I believe it will happen eventually.

    But I'm just sick of these fans that have no respect for the fact that everyone's circumstances are different.

    We live in a society that's so inpatient, and if they don't get what they want, it has to be someone's fault, and then that person gets hated on. It's a joke.

    Why on earth would Andre Ward pursue a Kovalev fight at this point?

    He's said that if/when he leaves SMW, he won't want to go back.

    So what would happen if he beat Kovalev now?

    If GGG and DeGale became big fights at SMW and they called him out, all of these guys would be demanding that he moved back.

    And what would happen if he said no, because he was comfortable at LHW?

    He'd be accused of being a ducker, and would receive hate.

    Some of these guys on here are jokers.

    If Ward was currently a LHW, and it was clear he was ducking Kovalev, then fine, you could criticise him.

    Likewise, if he never moves up to LHW, you can criticise him.

    But at this moment in time, people should respect his and Hunters decision, and just hope that he remains active and is in good fights.

    If these guys knew anything about the business side of boxing and were Ward's promoter/manager, the last thing they'd want at this moment in time would be a Kovalev fight.


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  2. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Murica went to Vietnam, invaded their land and killed 10's of thousands simply because they could, not because they had to. That's a boss move from a boss country. Meanwhile, Germany lost 2 major wars, got their land taken from them, and forced to do the Russians dirty work. Germany has felt the powah of the American spirit twice.

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  3. QuadrupleG

    QuadrupleG MAZAFAKA Full Member

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    SMW division is even worse than MW. Why does GGG need to move up to fight bigger guys for the same money ? He tries to get good money fights against JCCJ and Froch, but they are ducking.
     
  4. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He ain't ducking kovalev
     
  5. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Compare Germany's size to the size of the US and according to veterans Americans were still the weakest soldier's they faced. :rofl

    You even have casualties in Germany even 70 years later. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Frankfurt_Airport_shooting .

    Here an US soldier getting knocked out in South Korea.

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    Learn how to fight. At war and in the ring, because if your guys Floyd and Ward man up to fight GGG and Kovalev there is nothing left in the US to represent your country. :deal

    Weapons alone have no use, you need people who know how to use them. Your army is filled with guys who join the army for free health care and college education, something every developed country should offer for free. :rofl
    That's the reason you lost to the Vietcong, NorthKorea and the Taliban. No spirit.
     
  6. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Lol at posting a random youtube video.

    Murica has the best fighters in the world, that's just a fact. The best BAAXERS and the best MMA fighters. This isn't conspiracy or opinion, these are just facts. :yep

    Germany had the most powerful empire and Military in the world TWICE and got their **** pushed in by a developing country.. :rofl

    The German people are weak. They got brain washed by some Austrian guy and helped bring fourth the worst genocide the world has ever seen. They're just not very smart or bright people. They NEED another more powerful country to guide them. They tried bullying France and Poland and once they tried that **** with a more powerful country with guts(Russia and the USA) you saw what happened.

    It's been happening to Germany for thousands of years. The Roman's showed the German's their place long before Russia and the U.S did. :yep
     
  7. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not a random video, just an US soldier getting knocked out against some drunken Korean guy. :nono

    I think you laughed about that too when you posted it. :yep As far as I remember, you weren't even American but Mexican. Are you just one of these CHB trolls who wanted to "invade" this board? No way you believe this is true. :rofl

    Most powerful empire? The UK had the most powerful empire. Germany was actually broke at this time, still strong enough though to fight against the whole world. Again, compare the size of Germany and the US.
    The world > Vietcong, Taliban and North Korea. :hey

    Yes, you must be a troll. :huh:-( The car you drive, the computer you use, the telephone you talk through, the nuclea bomb that stops the Russians from invading your country (and taking it over within a few weeks) .. all German inventions. And not only these .. X-Ray, DNA, Aspirin .. but what would you know, do you even have free healthcare? :hey

    What? Ever heard of Hermann der Cherusker aka. Arminius? :deal I doubt it .. your national heroes are Kanye West, Adam Sandler and Lil Wayne.
     
  8. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Exactly, you've said it yourself. Some guy trying to get a free education play fighting with some drunk Korean guy in the street. It's a random video, seems like you're kind of reaching to me.

    Line up every single person in Germany, and they'd get knocked out by one of America's bum fighters like Wilder.. :rofl Weidman and Bones Jones would TAKE the German women and have them dripping wet just like Patton's troops did when they invaded Germany. :yep

    Of course they had the most powerful Empire in the world, are you serious? After WW1 the world was suffering from a great depression, especially Germany. The Austrian led Germany out of poverty, invaded the rhinelands without ANY resistance, and secretly built the worlds most powerful Military. They became even RICHER and more POWEFUL once the invasion of Poland and France commenced. I can't believe I'm schooling you on this, you should know this. I know German's try to block out WW2 and the Holocaust, but this is just ridiculous.. :rofl

    Murican's take whatever they want because they're a boss country and do boss moves. Germany tried being a boss country and do boss moves and look what happened to them. That **** might work on the French, but once they got froggy with Russia and USA, they bent the knee and became tame just like Japan and England did once we've finished with them. :yep

    Maybe if the German's weren't weak and learned to take a loss, they'd still be a world power. Instead, they cowered and took orders from a painter.. :rofl:patsch
     
  9. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not random. He's an GI, according to you, the "strongest soldier of the world". So strong, his glass jaw gets shattered by some drunken guy. :rofl

    A prime Axel Schulz would kill Wilder within round one. :lol: RJJ ducked Henry Maske. Stop talking about boing, maybe you watched too much Hajime no Ippo, you weaboo. Your obsession with Japan gets out of control at the other forum, please let us alone with your anime stuff.
    The US invaded Germany? :rofl You entered the war when it was almost finished. While Germany and Russia fought the real war in the East, you fought the Hitlerjugend and still lost more soldiers in the end of the war than France since beginning of the war.

    Is this what they teach you in the US in history lessons?? :patsch No wonder you are far behind in the PISA studies.

    Germany vs. the world against the US vs. the Vietcong. Who did better? :yep

    What's the deal about being a world power? Germany is a small country, not a world power like China. We still have .. free healthcare and free education, I pay 250 Euros for each semester, Amerians pay like 15000 and start their life with debts. That's the reason you most of you guys look like Kevin James, wearing clothes like in the 80's.

    You say the US is a world power? The US, who wanted to invade Syria but chickened out when Russia said they help Assad? The US who chickeed out from Ukraine and let their ally getting taken over by some pro Russian rebells? :rofl
    Ok, let's assume you are a world power .. still .. homeless people everywhere, everyone has debts, your life expectancy is low, the gap between rich and poor is the biggest in the world, getting shot has a higher probability than winning the lottery .. and last but not least .. no healthcare .. damn!!
     
  10. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Ward takes the easy route :huh Wow :lol:
     
  11. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that olympics middleweight class was packed, light heavyweight was very weak
     
  12. SOUTHERMOST

    SOUTHERMOST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Accusing Ward of cowardice is a big injustice check most of his fights he never shy away from fighting anybody one more thing don't try to bully him in the ring he got the tools to outmuscle you.
     
  13. QuadrupleG

    QuadrupleG MAZAFAKA Full Member

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    He got tools to outmuscle smaller guys he was facing at 168. No way he can outmuscle Kovalev to say nothing of Beterbiev.

    If Ward moves up, he will be cherry picking feather-fisted opponents in the next 2-3 years and will then retire.
     
  14. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Golduckvin/Ward is a money fight. If Ward fights and defeats Kovalev at LHW I think Golduckvin and his fans will say Golduckvin shouldn't have to fight Ward because he is now a LHW and beat the champion of that division. If Golduckvin was really the monster his fans say he is, fighting Ward at 168 should be no problem for him. Clearly his team and his fans are not so confident though.
     
  15. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But if neither of GGG/Ward or Ward/Kovalev ever happens then each one is equally as much of a duck as the other correct? :think