If Wilder actually beats or KOs Fury it will go down as the greatest HW redemption of all times

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Zulu King, Jun 18, 2021.

  1. ATP

    ATP Fringe Contender Full Member

    Mar 28, 2010
    Guarantee you one thing, Unlike Donkey Wilder, if Fury loses this one he’l take it like a man...

    No excuses

    Is there any fighter in history that has made more excuses after a loss then deontay...

    Its pathetic from a grown man
  2. MyDentedHead

    MyDentedHead Active Member banned Full Member

    Jun 1, 2021
    If fury loses i might make hundreds of YT vids making up conspiracies lol
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  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jan 4, 2008
    Louis was fairly dominated by Schmeling and absolutely crushed him in the rematch. So a come from behind KO from Wilder won't match that, he needs to dominate from start to finish as Louis did Schmeling.

    And why shouldn't we look at the Louis-Schmeling rematch from a political/psychological perspective? Louis was put forward as the defender of the free world against the man who had bested him. Wilder just has his own reputation to defend, not that of democracy as well.

    What Louis did probably cannot be equalled or let alone bested due to what was at stake at a personal level as well a global one. If he lost, he wouldn't just have let himself down but also his nation and everyone who opposed the Nazis. He had all this on his shoulders and just levelled Max. Astonishing when you think about it.
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  4. xnico

    xnico New Member banned Full Member

    Nov 6, 2020
    Wilder is a scary dude Fury should be careful
  5. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    If and it is a big if Wilder were to beat Fury, then Wilder in my opinion would have retired the former lineal champ, as I cannot see Fury having the motivation or psychological coping skills to re-enter a pro boxing ring again if he lost.

    Wilder gotta beat Fury first before we can consider things like it being greatest HW redemption of all times.
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  6. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Active Member Full Member

    May 7, 2016
    He doesn't look very scary and he acts a bit silly. Maybe scary to someone with coulrophobia? How are you with baloons?
  7. Zulu King

    Zulu King Member banned Full Member

    Jun 17, 2021
    Any way to try and diminish a revenge victory by Wilder then anything other than something great would be preposterous...
  8. Finkel

    Finkel Active Member Full Member

    Feb 10, 2020
    Um...I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that was a typo on your part. But due to likes you are receiving this still needs to be pointed out. And to be fair there does seems to be a common misunderstanding that Wilder just needed to find 2 more rounds...It's almost Urban Legend at this point.

    But actually:

    If you can only find 2 more rounds for Wilder in addition to the two 10-8 rounds:
    Fury still wins 114-112

    Wilder needed to win 5 rounds total to get a draw on the cards not 4.
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  9. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Active Member Full Member

    May 6, 2021
    If Wilder were to come out and outbox Fury and make him look silly, then yes that would be something great.

    If Wilder were to be completely clowned by Fury, made to look like a B-grade fighter (again) and then land a lucky hail mary punch and knock him out then that would be a fluke, which is not really all that great.

    It's difficult in a way because almost by definition Wilder cannot be great when viewed this way - "evade and endure, then land big right" is the absolute depth of Wilders tactical abilities, it's just the way he fights...
    And it's been effective for two reasons up to this point - firstly because that bomb is a damn hard punch and secondly because Wilder has a long history of cherrypicking poor quality opponents.

    Sorry, if Wilder wins it won't be entirely on the merits, which makes it hard to call it a redemption.

    Wilders entire career to date is what requires redemption, not this trilogy on its own...
    Wilder would be redeemed in the eyes of many fans if he were to just man up and fight serious threats - stop ducking Joshua, stop ducking Whyte and then go through other top ten opponents as well, and actually beat some of them (it doesn't have to be all, but being willing to fight them and showing that he belongs at that level would be significant).
    Deep down, we all know that's never going to happen, though, don't we?
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  10. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. Full Member

    Jul 22, 2019
    I hope this time Fury wins by a monstrous self uppercut of Wilder or also by disqualification of Wilder like Golota with Bowe. The audience would go bananas.
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

    Mar 3, 2019
    You've got to be pretty shortsighted to think that if Wilder wins this third fight, there'd be no forth.
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  12. m.s.

    m.s. Well-Known Member Full Member

    Nov 2, 2010
    I don't know about the best in history, but it would sure create a much needed boost in boxing interest and in the heavyweight division. It would create alot of excitement. Imagine another Wilder highlight reel KO on the nightly news. Instant Heavyweight excitement. People would be talking.
  13. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jan 4, 2008
    It's a bit hard to see how he would beat Fury if Fury doesn't have a melt down again and comes in totally out of shape. He landed his best on a still recovering Fury in the first fight and still didn't come close to finishing him and he's not outboxing him.
  14. Zulu King

    Zulu King Member banned Full Member

    Jun 17, 2021

    Of course, if he KOs Fury it is "lucky", he has to go out and beat Whyte to earn your respect...yes I understand what time it is
  15. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jan 4, 2008
    I don't understand those who say that Wilder should come in lighter. How would less weight have helped his performance last time? He got outmuscled, so why would a smaller frame help him? No one is expecting him to stick and move to a decision surely? He have to stand up to a Fury that will try to bulldoze him, so can't see how less muscle would be of any help.