If Wilder want to be recognized as legit he needs to fight Ruiz

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wilder once again talk big. Why for once he did not backup his own word?
    If he ever fight Fury and beat him, he needs to fight Andy Ruiz and then we will understand if he is legit or not.
    But we all know he will most probably fight some driver cab again.
     
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  2. POTUS

    POTUS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why should Wilder back track? Bermane>>Ruiz
    Back of the line for Ruiz
     
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  3. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Why should he fight Ruiz who joshua easily beat in the rematch? If wilder fights and easily beat Ruiz? You wouldn't give him credit smh.
     
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  4. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pointless, he would not get any credit now.

    Ruiz needs a solid win or two and then maybe it would be worth Wilder doing it.
     
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  5. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Ruiz has fast hands, and he's in his prime. Despite being overweight and not training, he's too big of a risk for Wilder to ever fight.

    Another overweight former champion named Sam Peter has a better chance of being chosen as an opponent for Wilder.
     
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  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Because Ruiz beat Joshua in the first match. A solid victory for Wilder, even on points will be great for his lacking resume, maybe for that?
    And i said it here that i will give him credit.
    There is a lot of decent opponents out there, yet Wilder is avoiding all of them like a pleague, and fight only 50 years old or completely feather fists like Fury, and he even lost to Fury.
    Stiverne was and is a complete trash, you can`t compare it to Ruiz, who will most probably now be motivated.
    But Ruiz is too much danger for Bionce.
     
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  7. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Ruiz ain't better than Ortiz smh
     
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  8. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So let me get this straight, even if he beats Fury It won’t be enough for you to understand if he’s legit or not, you’ll need him to step down in opposition and face morbidly obese Ruiz?

    How on earth does that make sense exactly?
     
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  9. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He should fight the likes of Whyte, Parker, Chisora, Povetkin, Hunter & Ruiz Jr but he won’t because they’re all live opponents.

    His credibility as a Champion is at stake here, he’s fought 42 times and hasn’t yet squared off against a decent level opponent at his peak NONE, ZERO, ZIP, NADA!

    Not a single one in 42 fights!
     
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  10. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder haters have been reduced to some extreme -- and hilarious -- logical acrobatics.

    The criticism made sense in 2016-17 in some of those defenses. But it hasn't made sense starting in 2018, with three and soon to be four fights out of five against top opponents.
     
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  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Ruiz is far better than Ortiz. Ruiz get up after huge KD against Joshua and eat heavy, heavy punches, but bounce back, because he has heart and chin, something Ortiz doesn`t have. Ruiz also have way better cardio, and its a lot faster, way more motivated and its in his best years, unlike Ortiz.
    Fury is a solid opponent, but he is feather fisted. And Wilder already lost to him.
    Everyone will prise Wilder if he decide to fight Ruiz. This will be a good move for him, but he is scared to fight a living body.
     
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  12. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Ortiz is a way better defensive fighter than Ruiz Jr and just like ruiz jr? Ortiz is a great counter puncher. Plus ortiz hits harder than Ruiz Jr. Ortiz two loses was against one of the best ko puncher in wilder who throws from wide hooks, overhand to straight punches. Ruiz doesn't have the power that wilder has which would be his downfall if he fights ortiz.
     
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  13. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’m pretty sure Ruiz won’t be able to standup to Wilders Power... double chin or not.

    but $crew it I’ll watch.
    What if the Blob gets struck by grease Lightning twice?!
     
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  14. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    apparently @Wig thinks WILDER has a chin and brain, but Whyte/AJ dont.

    Remind me, who has tested Wilders chin?

    Remind me, how much has Wilder evolved since going pro???

    serious noobs up in here
     
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  15. anjawnaymiz

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    I’d be happy to see wilder vs Ruiz or Parker after he beats fury
     
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