If Wilder wins will there be a 4th fight?

Does not look confident at all saying it, does he?

 

If Wilder wins (which I am as close to 100% certain that he won't but I'll humor the question), he's gonna fight Ruiz who looked horrible in his last outing but is a known name and PBC commodity. There would never be a 4th fight because if Wilder wins, it would be by KO and he would say that the KO was the most decisive win in the series.

 

Wilder is a disgrace. His career is full of contradictions. He ran home from England without going to Russia to face Povetkin when he “popped” for .000000001 percent of meldonium which had been a legal and over the counter ingredient in found in Russia and Eastern Europe. After investigation it was found that was not enough to qualify as dirty but Wilder had already scuttled the fight by going home before the wbc that sanctioned the bout was able to rule on the fight. Then after claiming he would never fight a drug cheat he fights ancient Ortiz who twice popped for anabolic steroids.
never mind how Wilder fought no one of note to earn his wbc Elimination match. Or the string of terrible defenses against Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Washington, the ghost of Arreola, etc etc
Even Fury was a cherry pick. A light punching inactive fat drug addict.
Wilder is a sham. He turns 36 this month and is the most manufactured heavyweight since Briggs.

 

Reminds me of some of the terrible arguments the arbitration judge made when comparing the situation to Lewis-Rahman as 'precedent'.

Particularly in the suggestion that it was unfair to run away with the titles without giving the champ a chance to take them back. Completely ignoring the controversy of the 'draw' wherein Fury should have taken the titles initially, with this second fight serving as the 'second chance'. Also funny to compare Lennox Lewis considering his 'draw' with Holyfield in very similar circumstances as Fury's (did Holyfield deserve a third?).

Obviously, it was a contractual matter and I haven't studied the case, but my understanding was that the clause itself had expired and it was these questionable 'precedent' arguments that had him decide in favour of Wilder. A bit of a quack judge.

But anyway, on this logic (so much as the rematch clause is presumably absent this time, so I'm not talking about the legal arguments) it would be only fair to give the champ a chance to take his titles back ... and so on ... endlessly ...

 

Yup.

Ortiz resume is an absolute joke.

It's not a popular opinion around here I know, but I think there's a pretty damn strong argument that Chisora has a better resume than Ortiz (actually, I wouldn't mind seeing them fight - especially at this point, I'd have Delboy 60/40 favourite).

 

Are you on crack?
Of those three you mentioned
Fury - Ring Magazine Heavyweight Champion
Ortiz - Ring Magazine Heavyweight # 5
Breazeale - Ring Magazine Heavyweight #8 at the time. Now unranked by Ring

And those are his best fights. Compare to this Joshua who since 2018 has fought

Parker - at the time Ring Magazine Heavyweight #3
Povetkin at the time Ring Magazine Heavyweight #4
Ruiz - Ring Heavyweight # 5
Pulev - Ring Magazine Heavyweight #10
Usyk - Ring Magazine Heavyweight #1 and Ring Magazine Pound for Pound #2

In addition to Whyte who is currently Ring Magazine Heavyweight #4 and Klitschko, who was Ring Magazine Heavyweight Champion.

And Joshua has beaten all of those except Usyk. Wilder was taken to school twice by Fury and won his first fight over Ortiz after the referee called a time out to check him for injuries he didn't have

 

Apparently Fury may end up making $60 million for the fight while Wilder $40 million. These two have not achieved these pay days anywhere before outside the potential AJ fight. Why will these two mind fighting against each other?

 

i don’t think Breazale was ranked

 

I don't care if it's a TD because of a cut, a freak injury, a DQ.. anything


They just need to move on, even if Wilder wins they need to go their separate ways, we've seen enough.

 

If Wilder wins?

This is the prophet we're talking about.

Evil isn't prevailing tomorrow night.

 

You need to work on your reading comprehension. No one said Wilder had the best win/loss record, but his opposition has been the strongest since 2018. I posted above I dislike the absence of variety, so I agree with you there. And prior to 2018 Joshua easily has the better resume, but the discussion here is since 2018.

But let's look:

Champion
Champion
Champion (was Fury considered Champion in the first fight? i don't know, but certainly top 3)
No. 5
No. 5
No. 8 (and I wasn't even counting him)

vs

No. 1
No. 3
No. 4
No. 5
No. 10
Unranked (Ruiz 1)

Based on your own numbers, Wilder obviously has had the more difficult fights since 2018.

 

No this is their last fight either way.

 

Sure, but if he believes all that nonsense then he believes he's been robbed twice and probably that he will be again - why would a man in such circumstances be anything other than broken?