If Wilder wins will you give him his props?

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  1. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A lot of guys on here don’t seem to be able to objective. For years people said Wilder has not fought anyone and on most people’s list Ortiz was the no.3 in the division. When Wilder signed to fight Ortiz, people suddenly said Ortiz was old and washed up.

    When the positive drug test happened a lot of people said Wilder was scared and was being protected by the WBC because Ortiz would beat him, and now the fight is almost here suddenly Ortiz is old again. Personally this is the no. 2 & no. 3 in the division squaring off.

    To any Wilder hater, if he beats Ortiz will you at least give him some credit? if not why?
     
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  2. baconmaker

    baconmaker Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No. Ortiz has aged and is about 50 year old.
     
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    Price is back E16 Canning Town banned Full Member

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    No.
     
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  4. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Yes, otherwise at which point do you begin to give credit to a fighter?
     
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  5. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Absolutely
     
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  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Any reason why?
     
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  7. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is still a top 5 HW in the division atm, would you agree?
     
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  8. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    yes
     
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  9. baconmaker

    baconmaker Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Top 5 when he gets his heart pills. Now Wilders team has hired spys to steal Ortiz heart pills when the old man is sleeping.

    He can't perform in top 5 level when he can't get his medication. So no, he is not top 5 at the fight night.
     
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  10. Breazer5678

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    Yes.

    Although Ortiz is old he's still the most skillful and dangerous opponent Wilder has faced and its not like the top guys were queuing up to get in the ring with him and Wilder's given him another chance despite him testing positive, that would've been an easy excuse not to take the fight. Either he's extremely confident of doing a demolition job on him or he's tired of abuse from fans for taking on low risk opposition
     
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  11. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he wins decisively, yes.
     
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  12. HerolGee

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    I'm beginning to think wilder will neve get props his whole career, if a 40 year old is the highlight of it.
     
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  13. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lool so who is your top 5?
     
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  14. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He wouldn’t be the highlight but if he beats Ortiz that is the best name on any active HWs resume that’s not Joshua.
     
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  15. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My point exactly, we know AJ wasn’t keen on that fight, no one wanted to fight Ortiz and Wilder actually pursued this fight. If Ortiz wipes Wilder out the same people who say Ortiz isn’t dangerous will say Wilder lost the moment he stepped up to a dangerous level. It’s moving the goalpost.
     
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