If Wilder wins will you give him his props?

Joshua couldn't KO Takam as convincingly as Povetkin.

Wilder couldn't KO Duhaupas as convincingly as Povetkin.

That proves Povetkin has performed better, plus he has overal better record than Joshua or Wilder.

 

Luis Ortiz is old for a boxer that's just a fact, he's 30 days from being 39 years old. Doesn't mean he still isn't a top contender and the first good fighter Wilder has fought.

Also people were critical of Ortiz before he signed to fight Wilder. Nobody was impressed with his wins over Scott and Allen. Even his 1st round KO of Martz wasn't impressive with him looking slower than ever and falling short with his punches.

If Wilder does win, he'll obviously get credit, more credit than for any other win he's had to date. That is of course if the win is without controversy. But he doesn't get as much credit as if he had fought Ortiz before Ortiz's weaknesses were exposed and started looking old. Just like Joshua only gets the credit for beating an old, faded Wlad, Wilder will only get the credit for beating an old and faded Ortiz.

 

Provided there's no funny business (a la Scott) then I don't see why not. Ortiz is still a top five fighter on par with the likes of Povetkin so any victory over him has to count as a major win by any standards.

 

If Wilder beats Ortiz, he deserves a great deal of credit. He will have
beaten the legitimate dark horse of the HW division. He'll also now have
arguably the best win of all the HW titlists. (and no a completely outfoxed and retired by Tyson Fury and coming back 2 years later Wlad ain't it).

Let's be real, Ortiz is old as hell, he's probably 48 but at the same time,
he's showed no real flaws except slow feet. He's a good boxer, physically strong,
has shown a good chin (thus far), and good power.

It's a good win (if Wilder wins), and that should not be in dispute.

 

Of course he wouldn't.

 

Boxing trainers doesn't make your chin better and Povetkin KO'd Duhaupas brutally, while Wilder couldn't even drop him.

Judges didn't give Takam rounds? Exactly. Joshua couldn't KO Takam, so he needed all the help from judges and referee to make standing stoppage while Takam was still able to go distance. Povetkin however ended the fight by brutal lefthook and let Takam unconscious.

 

im not a fan of either but i would say yes,

some props would have to be given for the win

 

I think it's very strange... The organisations always make strange decisions... But Ortiz was intent on fighting for the WBC belt so it would make no difference to Joshua.

 

Povetkin would still ruin Wilder. Parker fought his mandatory which paved way for a big payday vs AJ. He would have made peanuts in a unification vs Wilder because neither of them are a draw.

 

Povetkin couldn't KO Wlad... Or even win a round really... So AJ > Povetkin. AJ also holds 2 legitimate belts and Povetkin has yet to hold 1.... So AJ > Povetkin again.

 

Joshua arguably lost 1 round to Takam, dropped him and busted him up. The doctor advised the ref because of the state Takam was in.

Takam turned up against Povetkin to win and he was on an even footing with him...he turned up to survive vs AJ and hid behind his guard...

 

Povetkin was never ahead vs WK but he wasn't as badly hurt as Joshua. Joshua just got lucky late on, vs a faded version of WK at that. I don't read Joshua > Pov from that.