If Wilder wins will you give him his props?

If he can't get credit for beating King Kong , he'll never get credit for beating anybody. His haters are too far gone at this stage , no coming back for any of them.

 

I didnt say he had success. I said Joshua suffered more damage from an older WK than Povetkin did from a younger version. Joshua just got lucky late and enjoyed a Brit stoppage. Not enough there for me to judge Joshua is superior to Povetkin in any way.

 

As I said Joshua got lucky vs WK. A fresher WK knocks him out quickly after that KD.

 

I don't think I'm a Wilder hater, but regardless Wilder gets credit. As you say Ortiz is about #5 in the division and any HW in the world should get credit for beating another top 5 guy.

I should probably make the usual disclaimer as to freak events (e.g. Ortiz sprains his ankle in round 1 and has to retire, or clearly takes a dive), but yeah.

 

Yes.

I would still call him a delusional, bumbling, sloppy oaf that has a toddler's grasp on the English language and only shuts his mouth when he wants to pout. But the main reason I criticise him is his resume. Ortiz may be older than we have been led to believe, he may not be as good as his boogieman reputation would dictate, but he's still a top five HW and a win over him would legitimise Wilder as a title holder and consolidate him as a top two HW.

 

If Wilder wins by a wide UD or even a stoppage he is #2 for sure and he can continue talking like he is talking recently.

 

Some people won't give Wilder credit no matter what. I criticize him when he deserves it (which is alot). But if this fight goes through and he wins he'll have redeemed himself to me a be the clear #2 of the division.

 

Yeah I don't want no BS shenanigans though. I think Ortiz actually stops Wilder, I won't be shocked at all if either is KO'd

 

i rate ortiz always have

passes my eye test of being a very good technical boxer with power.

lack of big fights is because he is a cheat and brings no money

if ortiz wins it will put shame on boxing and the division.

if wilder wins he should get recognition from all casuals and wilder haters

not a ****ing chance in hell of posters doing this but they should.