If Wilder wins will you give him his props?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    As the best heavyweight (even though it will arguably his personal best win)? No.

    Likewise if Ortiz wins he isn't the best just for beating Wilder, either.

    AFAIC this is a h2h #4 vs. #5ish type match-up in the division.
     
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  2. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Precisely.
     
  3. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz is the consensus top 3-5 HW in the world after AJ, Parker, Wilder. Throw Povetkin in the mix
     
  4. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't classify myself as a 'Wider hater.'

    However, it's a long time since someone got so much hype (and a belt) on so little by way of accomplishment.

    He has two wins over Bermane, who was his best scalp, but not elite. That's pretty much it.

    So he's done bugger all so far that would match the hype.

    My personal take on the division is Joshua, Povetkin, Ortiz, Parker and Wilder, in that order.

    So if he legitimately beats Ortiz like he did Bermane, I'll certainly give him due credit for having beaten a top level name.
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Winner is #4 HW, tops.
     
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  7. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Man Ortiz is like 45 years old.
     
  8. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    As long as its indisputable that Ortiz came to fight...he's a top 3 fighter.

    If its an obvious flop job then obviously no.....:yikes:
     
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  9. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    No, hell no! If Wilder beats Joshua I will give him props...............Ortiz is very old, around 50, so why should I give him props? Hell, Wilder turned down $4,000,000 to fight Whyte! Why? All this trash talk about fighting Joshua, OK, it's time for him to fight Joshua................Why in the hell has he been fighting winos from the alley all these years? Wilder has HAYMON BOXING INSURANCE!
     
  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Close, dude.


    (The correct answer was 3 :D)
     
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  11. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where is your proof he is 45? Do you have a birth certificate?
     
  12. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So out of curiousity who you do you have at 2 & 3? Povetkin vs Parker?
     
  13. The Senator

    The Senator Active Member Full Member

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    I'll give him credit, especially if Ortiz does show up to fight. Yes, Wilder runs his mouth and has a padded record, but if he wins this, it'll be the best win on his record.

    If anything, it's a step in the right direction.
     
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  14. derrick

    derrick 6ft4 215 bring it on Full Member

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    He should get credit for taking this risky fight that Joshua wanted no part of. Ortiz is the hardest hitting heavyweight right now. Thompson and Jennings both said Ortiz hits harder than Wlad. The key for Ortiz beating Wilder is his Tyson like body attack and his uppercut.
     
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  15. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Come on let me hear it from all the doubters who said Wilder will get smashed?? Where you at?