If Williams clearly beat Martinez this time in the rematch, will there be excuses?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rayhogan, Sep 24, 2010.


  1. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Like say "catchweight" by any chance? Many here crying over spill milk that catchweight at 157 pounds is bs and that Williams is a p4ssy. Well is that mean there will be excuses if Williams clearly beat Martinez in the rematch? Listen i honestly don't like catchweights but since both Martinez and Williams are not really true middleweights and since both are clearly not going to be weight drain then why the complaining?
     
  2. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    This is boxing. There will always be excuses.
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Paul williams is a very polarizing figure, and Sergio Martinez is the new butt buddy for half the guys on ESB. Of course people will cry, whine, and make excuses.
     
  4. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Of course in which it sucks.
     
  5. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    You should know by now that there will be excuses...It always happens.

    I can agree that the catchweight is bull****, but if the two fighters agree to it then these crybaby ass fans on this website should just go sit in a corner and shut the hell up...They're making more of a fuss than the actual fighters.

    Ray, you should know by now on ESB that some fickle fans on here will never admit that they're wrong and they will drop every excuse they could so they wont have to admit that they're wrong...happens all the time with some of these clowns on here.

    For starters...Just look some of the responses you're gonna get as this thread progresses.:-(
     
  6. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    In the press conference Martinez could easily say "Williams is trying to make me drain myself by moving down 2 more pounds." But no he didn't.
     
  7. VecArrow

    VecArrow Custom User Title Full Member

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    He's not the kind of person that complains, that's why everyone likes him.

    Paul Williams KO1
     
  8. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Yea like Saul and BigBone.
     
  9. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im not sure why the 157 catch weight, doesnt make sense , Martinez is the Middleweight champion of the world. Make it 160 and fight. I see Paul williams winning in more convincing fashion , martinez had his chance to knock him out but didnt.
     
  10. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    I like him as well. He has my big time respect. If Martinez beats Williams, i wouldn't complain and i wouldn't be surprise.
     
  11. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    I don't think Williams would be able to beat Martinez clearly, in my mind it was pretty clear that he lost the first fight, but too many judges/people place way too much emphasis on Workrate I guess , opposed to clean, effective punching... but if he does... sure he'll get credit. The catchweight thing is BS, these guys aren't even real MW's anyways.. the first fight I don't think either one weighed 160 or if they did they were barely above 160 on fight night.

    I like Williams, always liked his fighting style.. but I think he lost the first one and will lose the 2nd one.. he knows he lost the first fight too, you can see it in his face after the fight, he may have got the nod.. but Martinez beat him up.
     
  12. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    no excuses. martinez was willing to come down to 155 to fight angulo, right?
     
  13. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    You're still scarred.... hahahhahahahaha


    People like a winner, boo.

    Get over it.
     
  14. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Lets pray for a KO either way.
    But like most have already said.. people will always talk.
     
  15. Bajingo

    Bajingo Boxing Junkie banned

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    Knowing ESB, yes. The catchweight shouldn't realistically be a problem for either of them but it does seem pointless. I don't think the excuse that Martinez was drained will have any substance though.