If Wlad beats Haye he's an ATG

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Like I say.......
*Wlad has never won the WBA belt.
*Wlad has never won the WBC belt

and I'll add
*Wlad has never been the undisputed heavyweight champion

 

I'm not a Wlad fan but I must agree that he's got a very respectable resume up until now. If Larry Holmes deserves to be called an ATG, I don't see why Wlad won't be one either, especially if he wins this big fight against Haye.

 

I would say 'YES', because he'll also likely dominate the HW scene for a few more years or longer if he decides to fight as long as his older brother has.

I also agree that if Wlad loses that his legacy will be hurt badly. When a fighter gets caught by an underdog, like Tyson did against Buster Douglas, or Lennox Lewis did against Rahman, you want to give that fighter a pass.

This fight is totally different. Dave Haye has been telling the world that Wladimir Klitschko is no good, and if he beats Wladimir, the world will believe what he has been saying all along which will severely hurt his legacy.

Haye has nowhere near as much to lose.

 

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These things are subjective.Arguably, Wlad's in better physical shape in his mid-thirties than Larry. Larry was facing a smaller man like Haye ,in Michael Spinks, at a similar stage in his career.

I suppose,it'd be interesting comparing the two challengers.

 

Haye is the best challenger of a bad bunch. If Wlad wins he might be champion until 2015, so his greatness will be unquestionable.

 

How can that be when he's never held the WBC belt?

 

The WBC belt is indeed the most prestigious alphabet title.

 

or the WBA.

 

NO.

Not even close.

Hearns and the baby Klit don't belong in the same sentence...

 

Neither has he ever been the true Lineal HW Champion...

 

wtf?!?

 

You are correct :-(

 

I think a lesson in ATG vs Greatest now or greatest of THEIR time might be in order. Just because Wlad has cleaned out a division and not lost in 7 years, doesn't mean he has had the opposition that any of the ATGS have had. While his record is very impressive, and arguements could be made stating he is the best heavy of the decade, to say he is ATG at heavy puts him (i think wrongfully) in the same category as Tunney, ali, patterson, Louis, even E charrles... Thats my opnion anyways.